Comment on Tankie

• Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tankies seek to use state violence to coerce and terrorize the working class into unquestioning obedience to the state. Sometimes that violence is directed at the working class in other states so it’s hard to argue they oppose war.

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re thinking of liberals.

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    • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok, fine, Tankies are a variant (ostensibly) of communists that seek to use state violence to coerce and terrorize the working class into unquestioning obedience to the state.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re thinking of social democrats.

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    • Rhoeri@piefed.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And as usual, you’re not thinking at all

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• bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you know what tanks are for?

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, that’s why “tankies” are generally opposed to building and deploying tanks, moreso than just about any ideology short of pacifism. Certainly moreso than liberals are.

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    • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You don’t even know the origin of the word “tankie”.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Actually, I do. That’s completely consistent with my point.

        The people who coined the term wanted to take a more aggressive approach to dealing with the USSR. They were particularly concerned that tensions might deescalate due to the change of leadership from Stalin to Khrushchev and the explicit foreign policy approach of “peaceful coexistence” with the West. Those in the West who supported deescalation and refused to take a hard line in support of the Cold War were labelled as “tankies” for their insufficient hawkishness.

        The Western leftists and peace advocates the term was created to condemn obviously had no control over the policies over the USSR. To the extent that they could influence the policies of their home countries, they pushed for deescalation, for building fewer tanks. It was the “anti-tankies” who wanted more tanks, as they always do.

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