Comment on Tankie

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Historically speaking, a safe bet

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Depends. At 4am you don’t want to be under tank treads.

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  • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How much would you like to bet?

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eye witness account plus video

      Pretty famously, he climbed directly up on the tank and chewed out the driver, then got back down and continued to block the tank. Others in the crowd pulled him away back down the street. The tank didn’t try to run him over, he was never reported captured, and as far as we’re aware he’s alive to this day.

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      • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m old enough to remember the footage being on live and the hope that this action brought to the world.

        Sadly a few weeks later tanks rolled over everything on Tianmen Square flattening bikes and human bodies alike.

        ICE shit and everybody involved needs to rot in jail but so far they have not flattened anything with a tank. Given the chance they no doubt will murder people at the scale it happened on Tianmen Square.

        Comparing wannabe mass murderers (ICE) to accomplished mass murderers (CCP) doesn’t really help painting the wannabes as bad as they are.

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• hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  you shouldn’t, though

  After the local troops refused to murder civilians they brought in different troops that were perfectly ok with a little mass murder.

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  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The fact that I trust a Chinese tank driver “more”, doesn’t mean I trust a Chinese tank driver.

    It would have been better formed if I said “I distrust a Chinese tank driver less than an ICE agent-”

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    • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, the premise is stupid. Like sticking your left hand in a jar of deadly scorpion s and your right hand in a jar of deadly centipede and stating you like the stinging in your left hand better.

      I’m old enough to remember the footage being on live and the hope that this action brought to the world.

      Sadly a few weeks later tanks rolled over everything on Tianmen Square flattening bikes and human bodies alike.

      ICE is shit and everybody involved needs to rot in jail but so far they have not flattened anything with a tank. Given the chance they no doubt will murder people at the scale it happened on Tianmen Square.

      Comparing wannabe mass murderers (ICE) to accomplished mass murderers (CCP) doesn’t really help painting the wannabes as bad as they are.

      But you know what? I’m just going to join the majority of people that have already set this tankie instance on block. so you and your tankie friends, most of whom are some quarter-assed LLM bot anyway, can knock yourselves out in your little tankie echo chamber. Cheers

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      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What are you on about, there have been many instances where ICE drove over people. They have shot people.

        There hasn’t been a Tiananman square like massacre, but the Chinese were military forced to to slaughter countrymen or be shot themselves. They made the wrong choice, killing civilians. ICE is people willingly joining to do unlawful things to innocent civilians, SS style. Murder, concentration camps, torture, starvation, etc.

        The one is someone with a gun to their head, making the wrong choice. The other is making the wrong choice to willingly be the fucking gun.

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      • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is the most pretentious, my-shit-doesn’t-stink reply I’ve seen outside of an .ml instance lol

        Touch grass.

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  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No. The Tianmen Square video is of tank man who made a tank stop instead of running him over. The protests were over a previous (1-3 nights before) protest or, according to Chinese Government, riot where protesters were killed. Deaths did not happen after tankman.

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  • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t trust a single ICE or DHS agent to do the right thing in this situation. We have proof of at least one Chinese tank crew doing so.

    How do you define “better”?

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    • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is your context window 1 token?

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