Longest non-human primate sentence on record:
Give Orange Me Give Eat Orange Me Eat Orange Give Me Eat Orange Give Me You
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mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Is this true? I was listening to a lecture of I think it was a linguist on apes using sign language, saying that the evidence for them actually understanding language is… not great. Like it appear they just sign until their carers gets the right/expected answer. That they may want to say ‘apple’, but not finding the word, they can’t describe the shape, color, just random words util they hit the correct one, or something like that.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That is pretty impressive. Where is it from?
nezrock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Pelcan mouth is good place for baby Put baby Pelican mouth now
Klear@quokk.au 1 day ago
Proving that Trump supporters don’t count as human.
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 day ago
That’s just not true. Most of them simply aren’t interested in communicating with humans, they just care about the reward
That’s what made Koko special. She was interested in communicating with humans, and her conversations were wild. It got existential
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
You have a severe case of anthropomorphizing animals plus a stark lack of education on animal behavioral sciences. You have zero idea what you’re talking about.
Koko’s “conversations” were gibberish that the scientists conducting the experiments interpreted with extreme bias. They wanted there to be meaning in what the gorilla was doing so they interpreted it as if there was. It was a heavily flawed experiment.
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 day ago
Bullshit. You just don’t speak any animal language
I can tell you what a dog is thinking at any given moment. They’re so expressive I can dictate it in real time. They tell you where and how they want to be pet, they can understand time and remember names
Koko was barely special. She spoke a form of sign language, and she enjoyed interspecies communication enough to devote time towards it. That’s what is rare
Do you understand how much more they’ll have to say when we crack their language? Because it’s coming
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Lol. You are like the epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It’s amazing how confident you are in your ignorance.
EfreetSK@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Afaik yes, although I remember reading that I think Koko sort of asked something (I think it was “what color” or something). But at the same time I remember reading about similar criticism you mentioned, that Koko’s were often quite random and the caretakers often tried to make fun of the situation that “she’s just joking”.
I should find that article …
mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes, that is the one! Koko and “just joking” I recognize from that lecture.