Brits: I like my food like I like my trousers. Beige and tasting of cotton.
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mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
He’s british i guess.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
British food is unironically great, and based on WW2 rationing. It’s made funnier that the people who say it comes from a country where people spray cheese from a can
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I think this overstates things. A substantial number of countries have their modern culinary culture defined in the post-war decades, though.
Japanese culinary identity came together after World War II, and many of the dishes and traditions defining their cuisine are recently invented or have evolved considerably during the post-war period: the popularization and evolution of ramen, katsu, Japanese curry, yakitori, etc. Even ancient traditions like sushi and Modern Japanese food draws a lot of influence from classic pre-war cuisine, but the food itself is very different from what was eaten before the war.
Even French cuisine underwent a revolution with nouvelle cuisine, heavily influenced by Japanese kaiseki traditions. Before the 20th century, French cuisine was about heavy sauces covering rich, slow-cooked foods (see for example the duck press and how that was used), and it took a few waves of new chefs pushing back against the orthodoxy to emphasize lighter, fresher ingredients. The most notable wave happened in the 1960’s, when Paul Bocuse and others brought in small, lighter courses as the pinnacle of fine dining.
Korean, Italian (both northern and southern), and American culinary traditions changed pretty significantly in the second half of the 20th century, as well, through changes in food supply chains, political or economic changes, etc. And that’s true of a lot of places.
Britain’s inability to shake off an 80-year-old culinary reputation comes in large part from simply failing to keep up with other more food-centered cultures that continually reinvent themselves and build on that classic foundation. Some of the criticism is unfair, of course, but it’s not enough to point at how things were 100 years ago as if that has bearing on what is experienced today.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The only reason Britain still has that reputation is because Americans repeat it mindlessly in media that the whole world consumes.
Like the teeth thing. In the 2000s, the UK alongside Germany had the joint healthiest teeth in the world (although now they’ve fallen to 8th after the Scandinavian countries upped their game). Did it stop the “Brits have bad teeth” gag in US media? No.
The US, for whatever reason, has been engaged in a cultural pissing match with the UK for a long time.
Alphonsus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
True 👌
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I was in London for a couple of days, Ate at a hotel, a couple cafes, two pubs, a chip shop with one hell of a line. I must have missed something; flavors were low-key, under-seasoned, and under-spiced. The closest thing I got to flavor was breakfast; the sausage was decent, I think you fully understand sausage there. The beans and eggs were just kinda meh.
Then you have places like this catering to local tastes. oldelpaso.co.uk/…/extra-mild-super-tasty-fajita-k…
I think things are changing. People are starting to crave a little more spice. There’s no lack of curry shops with plenty of spice, but they’re not strictly British food.
davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Brits love spice. I think you just were very unlucky or choose the cheap slop.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
explain the old elpaso then ;)
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Chip shops in London are always shit. It’s rare you get good fish and chips outside of seaside towns.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Look I have been to britain and the best british food I had was indian. “Indigenous” British food is rarely anything special. It isn’t usually god awful but I’ve never had British food that made me want to eat it again
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, I’m not taking the “that’s not indigenous food” from an American who im sure will unironically attempt to claim pizza and the hamburger steak.
Sad to hear you don’t like apple pie though. I thought you guys loved that one.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I was referring to like, shephards pie when I said indigenous but honestly I have no idea if thats even the case. Regardless the cuisine of the colonizer is usually mid at best
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Americans always try to paint British Indian food as not being British, but they’ll happily claim Tex-Mex as American. Same goes for pizzas and such.
Funny that.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I don’t think creole cuisine necessarily belongs to either culture but I generally tend to like them 👍
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A full English breakfast is one of the best meals in the world.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We don’t all obviously spray cheese from a can, some of us are from or near Wisconsin, the place where Monroe cheese is from, which is to say very well regarded in the international community. Whatever bad things Americans did to cheese is basically either a Republican’s doing or the interests of companies like Kraft or Nabisco who are cheap and want to can a product that lasts without refrigeration. See also, Old English cheese spread.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 2 months ago
My wife was just telling me about unironic british abominations on tiktok
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh wow, tiktok? Must be true.