Lemmy appears to have a lot of autistic users on it, which explains the struggles to understand sarcasm. But autistic people tend to be open-minded and we’re often targeted by the same bigots that you’re lamenting about. So while the sarcasm thing is an issue, it’s also a sign of an open-minded user base.
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Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
And this is why it’s perfectly fine to bash the bashers. I’d come to enjoy several creators who simply could not tolerate the negative attention of bigots. People’s desire to compel conformity, against the very nature of their subjects, creates a society that is not only deleterious to them and their subject, but mentally taxing to the rest of us. Literally not a single soul directly involved in this comes out ahead. It’s just a game designed to promote infighting and tertiary power grabs.
And that’s why I love lemmy. The general absence of []-phobes is fantastic. It’s the only reason I can tolerate the general inability to read sarcasm here.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Dang Ive been wrestling with the realization that I might be neurodivergent in some way, I’m on Lemmy but I do understand sarcasm. This hasn’t helped at all
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Understanding the concept of sarcasm and recognizing it amidst a conversation are very different things.
Also: autism isn’t the only type of neurodivergence and failure to recognize sarcasm isn’t a trait that 100% of autistic people share.
HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
We actually fairly recently had a severe mental event, and since then, frequently read sarcasm as serious on the first pass and sometimes for some time after.
It fucking sucks from this side, too. We just go charging at someone and then have to be like, oh, uh, sorry, guess I was socially stupid!
We can at least take some solace in knowing we all hate the situation together?
vateso5074@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I’m out of the loop, did I miss some drama?
HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Not… that this one is aware of?
What drama are you envisioning?
vateso5074@lemmy.world 37 minutes ago
Sorry, I think I misinterpreted your comment. Are you using something like the “royal we”? I initially read it as referring to Lemmy as a collective, figuring you were talking about something that happened here.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
I certainly don’t blame anyone. Fervent protection of disadvantaged groups is fine by me, even from people looking to do the same. Lol
brsrklf@jlai.lu 14 hours ago
Well, thank you very much, because of that last sentence I’ve parsed your message three times wondering if some of it was sarcasm.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
No, I was entirely sincere. Not that it would matter, as people would likely take me at face value
PerfectDark@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Agreed on all fronts there!
I’ve been spending a fairly sizable amount of time lately with the Android emulation scene, and the amount of times the public goes nuclear over the tiniest inconsequential things is…just unbelievable. From the []-phobes to death threats. I wish that people would learn some social skills.
The dev of Lazarus didn’t have this kind of reaction to Seaglass, so I think we could say that this trend of being a disgusting bigot is one which is being ‘allowed’ more recently than it once was in social media.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I always try to bring this up because honestly, if we go pretty far back in internet terms, we can see that this has actually been brewing for over a decade.
In 2013, EA won the Consumerist poll for “Worst Company in America.” While mostly people pointed to arguably rational reasons for these votes (DRM, microtransactions, badly made and released games), the COO of EA had some other thoughts as to why they got hammered so hard as the worst company:
When this happened in 2013, most of us thought this was absolute bunkum and just EA doing damage control. Now, I’m genuinely not so sure anymore. I think perhaps some suit at EA had noticed something happening, some change in the waters that had not yet become “mainstream” but was bubbling beneath the surface, slowly growing. People made fun of this response from EA, because we thought at the time “this is the modern era, those are just backwards fools stuck in the past that are complaining about LGBT inclusion, if they even exist at all, I bet EA is making it up to cover for how shitty they are.” But… were they?? At the time it was roundly dismissed because popular culture widely accepted LGBTQ inclusion, but now we’re on a backswing and people feel emboldened to be disgusting bigots and be loud and proud about being a exclusive asshat who hates people different than themselves. Has it just been brewing under the surface for over a decade?
Hazzard@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Damn, I hate how often I look at a situation like that and just think… what a waste. Some morons came in and ruined the message most of us were trying to send to EA by making them the “Worst Company in America”. Now these gross bigots get a “win”, and EA gets to sidestep all the legitimate anti-consumer issues most people were railing against. What a waste. And it feels like that’s everything these days, someone gross is always “on your side” looking to claim your victories for their own narratives.
Odo@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I still have my doubts that was the majority of the issue, at least the first time they “won” that award in 2012. That poll happened 1 month after Mass Effect 3’s release, when emotions were still raw over people’s disappointment with the game’s ending. That’s not to defend those who were voting for EA over, say, Nestle or any number of other awful companies. But most of what I saw was immature lashing out to punish anyone perceived as responsible for the writing. I remember people cheering they’d managed to harass EA’s tech support Twitter account into closing, like they’d made some great moral victory. It was all pretty gross.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 hours ago
I’m not saying it was a majority issue, I’m saying the beginnings of the social turn against LGBTQ openness and inclusion has been brewing under the surface for a long time and this is potentially evidence of it.