Comment on Restaurant Bill

Audiotape@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  The bottom still suggest to tip… It’s not used to give their employees a better wage, it’s to show lower prices on the menus.

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  • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I actually interpreted that is tipping is now optional because the service charge goes to the staff

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    • protist@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I agree, the tip at that point is entirely optional whereas without the service charge it would be expected. This seems no different than a “18% gratuity will be added to parties of 8 or more.”

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    • jimbo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      the service charge goes to the staff

      Does it? Tips are legally protected and must go to staff, but I don’t think the same applies to “service charges”.

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      • nogooduser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        It says on the receipt that they use the service charge to post a higher wage so if that is true then it does (indirectly) go to the staff. Like you say though - there’s no guarantee that it all goes to the staff.

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      • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That’s how I interpreted the contents of the receipt, that’s all I can tell you.

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      • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        This would reduce tipping a lot, so if the staff weren’t being paid well to begin with I don’t see how they’d continue working there.

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  • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    At the very least they’re calculating the tip from the pretax/pregratuity price. Most places seem to calculate the suggested tips from the after tax total. So they’re not complete scumbags. Only mostly scumbags.

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• ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Tips exist because servers were/are paid below minimum wage. A service charge should replace the tip, not be added on top of it. Or the restaurant should factor labor costs into the price of their meals. The owners are double dipping to shift the cost onto the consumer.

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  • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Service charges are bullshit. Businesses need to advertise the full price of the food.

    Imo, this is simply unacceptable.

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    • ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’m in the same boat. I think the costs should be reflected in the price of the meal.

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    • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I wonder if the menu showed there was a service charge

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      While we’re at it, how about we make the price on the label be the price you pay at the register across the board?

      Other countries don’t do this… The price is the price, no surprise sales tax or service charges. The way we do it is insane

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      • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Our taxes in general would need an overhaul for this. City tax, county tax, state tax. There is a different tax rate on different products.

        I’m not against it, it’s just that the way the USA is organized with city, county, state, and federal hierarchies each able to levy taxes makes the implementation burdensome. Not impossible, but very difficult.

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  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Or the restaurant should factor labor costs into the price of their meals

    This is the answer.

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• war@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Imagine looking at this thread and thinking that the complaint has to do with a worker getting paid.

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• macarthur_park@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  If they need to raise prices by 18% to pay their workers, then they need to actually raise the prices on the menu. Right now this is just bait and switch, it’s dishonest and possibly illegal depending on the location.

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