Tips exist because servers were/are paid below minimum wage. A service charge should replace the tip, not be added on top of it. Or the restaurant should factor labor costs into the price of their meals. The owners are double dipping to shift the cost onto the consumer.
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Audiotape@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I don’t see how paying your workers is infuriating
ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 11 months ago
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Service charges are bullshit. Businesses need to advertise the full price of the food.
Imo, this is simply unacceptable.
ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I’m in the same boat. I think the costs should be reflected in the price of the meal.
papertowels@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I wonder if the menu showed there was a service charge
theneverfox@pawb.social 11 months ago
While we’re at it, how about we make the price on the label be the price you pay at the register across the board?
Other countries don’t do this… The price is the price, no surprise sales tax or service charges. The way we do it is insane
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Our taxes in general would need an overhaul for this. City tax, county tax, state tax. There is a different tax rate on different products.
I’m not against it, it’s just that the way the USA is organized with city, county, state, and federal hierarchies each able to levy taxes makes the implementation burdensome. Not impossible, but very difficult.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Or the restaurant should factor labor costs into the price of their meals
This is the answer.
war@kbin.social 11 months ago
Imagine looking at this thread and thinking that the complaint has to do with a worker getting paid.
macarthur_park@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If they need to raise prices by 18% to pay their workers, then they need to actually raise the prices on the menu. Right now this is just bait and switch, it’s dishonest and possibly illegal depending on the location.
SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The bottom still suggest to tip… It’s not used to give their employees a better wage, it’s to show lower prices on the menus.
papertowels@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I actually interpreted that is tipping is now optional because the service charge goes to the staff
protist@mander.xyz 11 months ago
I agree, the tip at that point is entirely optional whereas without the service charge it would be expected. This seems no different than a “18% gratuity will be added to parties of 8 or more.”
jimbo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Does it? Tips are legally protected and must go to staff, but I don’t think the same applies to “service charges”.
nogooduser@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It says on the receipt that they use the service charge to post a higher wage so if that is true then it does (indirectly) go to the staff. Like you say though - there’s no guarantee that it all goes to the staff.
papertowels@lemmy.one 11 months ago
That’s how I interpreted the contents of the receipt, that’s all I can tell you.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This would reduce tipping a lot, so if the staff weren’t being paid well to begin with I don’t see how they’d continue working there.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
At the very least they’re calculating the tip from the pretax/pregratuity price. Most places seem to calculate the suggested tips from the after tax total. So they’re not complete scumbags. Only mostly scumbags.