Comment on Hollow Knight Silksong Patch Version 1.0.28497 Now Live

nfreak@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• popcar2@programming.dev ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Moorwing filtered a lot of bosses because if you don’t move the flea caravan, it blocks the entrance to Bellhart. That change makes sense imo.

  As for Sister Splinter, I’m not sure why they nerfed her. I guess some players got overwhelmed by the spawned enemies in phase 2.

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  • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Moorwing filtered a lot of bosses because if you don't move the flea caravan, it blocks the entrance to Bellhart. That change makes sense imo.

    You can enter Bellhart from the east by going up the worm ways which means Moorwing is optional even if you don't move the caravan.

    I'm also not sure why they nerfed Sister Splinter. I'm more confused about the fact that they nerfed her but not the Last Judge. I've seen more people complain about the judge (due to the runback path) than sister splinter.

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  • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sister Splinter fight frustrated me while with Last Judge (and pretty much every other boss so far) I looked forward to just getting the pattern right and finally beating them. I don’t know why that is, though. I just recall getting really annoyed with it. Might have been the slow elevator and annoying bounce flowers (I think?) in the runback more than the fight itself. I got the blasted steps runback down pretty quick to the point I actually kind of enjoyed feeling cool zipping through it

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Last Judge was the only boss so far that almost completely filtered me from the game and I think the reason why was because of how very little warning you get before the big spin. I think like an extra quarter of a second on that startup animation would go a huge way toward making her way less annoying. Took me two days to complete the fight because I kept getting so tilted by getting hit with the spin.

      The runback wasn’t difficult at all but it was very annoying. You can avoid all enemies on the route except for a single drill fly, but it takes a whole 30 seconds or more to make the run back to the boss fight. Don’t fuck up your platforming though, the sand worms do two damage, so missing a landing means you’re stuck spending the first 10 seconds of the fight trying to Bind with your cocoon silk if you want to survive more than one single hit (two, if you found all the act 1 mask shards).

      To be honest I ended up finally defeating Judge by strapping on the Pollip Pouch and sticking her full of poison straight pins. I regret nothing and I do not consider this to be dishonorable.

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      • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I regret nothing and I do not consider this to be dishonorable.

        After what she did to those poor pilgrims, she deserves no honor. It was a that point that I went from “okay so the citadel bugs are obviously the bad guys (duh)” to “I am personally going to take immense satisfaction in bringing these guys down with as much savage justice as possible”

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      • cuzit@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The runback wasn’t difficult at all but it was very annoying. You can avoid all enemies on the route except for a single drill fly, but it takes a whole 30 seconds or more to make the run back to the boss fight.

        Actually, you can avoid all the enemies. The basic gist is just to keep running. If you run and jump from the start of the room, you’ll land and go under the drill fly when he spawns. Run-jump to the next platform and go up, and he’ll be stuck under the platform. Then you just jump up the little shortcut gap, pogo to the next ledge, and do another running jump to the second pogo to clear that drill fly before he can get you. If you run it and don’t mess up a pogo, it takes about 20 seconds.

        I went from frustrated with the run back my first two or three attempts on Last Judge until I got the run back down and then it was kinda fun. I’d still rather not have run backs tbf but that one’s not quite as bad as I’ve seen some people make it out to be.

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  • piyuv@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I haven’t seen moorwing but I’m currently fighting bellhart boss. Spoiler free, can you guide me to it? I’ve been all around birds area.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Go west and south when you find the rain

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    • popcar2@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Moorwing comes back eventually, don’t worry about it for now.

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    • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you moved the flea caravan haz already moved you’ll be out of luck for now. You’ll be able to fight it later on though in a slightly different spot.

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      • piyuv@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ah, so do you fight it where the flea caravan moves to if you haven’t moved it when you arrived at that area?

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• Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Do we know what the nerfs actually are?

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  • nfreak@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not sure yet. They did say they were small so probably nothing too egregious, I’d imagine a contact damage nerf if anything.

    Splinter is an odd choice to update at all but w/e, Moorwing I felt was tough but fair and really forces the player to learn the fundamentals.

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    • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Afaik they didn’t nerf splinter herself, just the mobs she spawned, which I think is justified because the way they spinned and blocked attacks made it seeningly impossible to kill before splinter came back

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    • TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I felt like too many of Moorwings attacks did double damage, personally

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      • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There are things in Silksong that don’t do double damage?

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