So it's basically the standard platformer formula going back three or more decades?
Comment on Hollow Knight: Silksong Sparks Debate About Difficulty and Boss Runbacks
simple@piefed.social 3 weeks agoI'm guessing it's something like when you lose to a boss you have to travel a senselessly difficult and long way back to the boss to try again?
That's exactly it. The runbacks aren't too long in this game despite all the complaints, but some of them are tricky and can get annoying if you keep dying 10 seconds into a fight.
socsa@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Famko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
More like the Dark Souls formula of having to trek through heaps of enemies and traps to get back to the boss. Including the whole “lose all of your money on death” thing.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Modern from games barely have run backs anymore. Atleast in souls game you can bank your currency into stats or buy consumables, you can’t reliably do that in SS.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes you can! There’s plenty of places where you can turn prayer beads into consumable chains.
okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No, just those with bad level design. Nine Sols has plenty of challenging boss fights, zero run back. Same with Sekiro, and most newer titles.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, there are some really bad runbacks, but yeah most of them are fine.
okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How is it compared to HK?
This is the only thing I wanted to know from reviews, for whether or not to bother with Silksong. I love difficult boss fights, but cannot be arsed to spend more than half a minute doing a tedious chore in order to actually redo boss fights.
faint_marble_noise@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It is slightly worse then HK.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The worst one I’ve encountered apparently has a secret bench somewhere that makes it much better, and the second worst (the runback that I think everyone is talking about) is about as long as the runback to crystal guardian I think.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Some of these mother fuckers never dealt with nosk and it shows.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Most runbacks aren’t too bad, but fuck the Bilewater one. That shit was too hard and annoying. I had less trouble with the First Sinner than that boss.
offspec@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
All the homies hate bilewater, actual dogshit even with the shortcut
simple@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The devs looked at blight town from dark souls 1 and thought 'we can do worse'. It really is a nightmare but somehow I killed the boss first try in the end
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lucky! I had to try more than ten times due to unlucky behavior in the waves before the boss, and finally managed to win only by using tools.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
There have been several boss fights so far where I die to the path to the boss more than the boss itself and it takes way longer to get to the boss than actually beating it.