Comment on 248 Legally Deceased "Patients" are In These Dewars Awaiting Future Revival - Cryonics

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  power outages at these facilities already happened, but it’s a smaller problem in grand scheme of things. facility of this type promises to keep human meatsicle at 77K effectively forever (because magic tech to revive dead is not coming), for a single payment. this means they’ll simply run out of power/liquid nitrogen money at some point and will have to shut down, and allow everything to thaw

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  • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    At the very least the customers won’t notice. 😅

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  • MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So the gamble is that tech is invented before money runs out?

    But also didn’t one routine inspection discover liquefied human remains?

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    • rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it’s not a gamble, it’s more of a shared belief propagated by people who took scifi way too seriously

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not even. By people who took it literally and completely missed the point.

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      tech is invented

      Why? We have enough humans. Why would we thaw out more at huge cost?

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      • MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thawing out scientists whose research is stalled because aliens have blocked sub atomic particle research.

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      • Mossheart@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because of the huge cost.

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    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The idea is you have investments running that return enough to keep the place running indefinitely.

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      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This sounds like Blackrock but with dead investors in the meat freezer.

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  • Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But the point is that people will continue to die and believe in that kind of thing. A bit like religion…

    Obviously space could become an issue especially if some kind of revival never happens… But at the price they set I think it’s prohibitive enough.

    There will never be a shortage of fools for this kind of services.

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  • onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would imagine they use the same financial methods as funeral homes taking payment decades before you die.

    Money goes into an investment fund that keeps growing.

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    • rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      funeral home doesn’t have recurring expenses per corpse for infinite time

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      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Liquid nitrogen is cheap to produce at scale and LN2 loss decreases per unit of internal volume as the volume increases.

        As for the revival tech, of course the meat is never coming back, but once we have the technology to scan the remains with 1 nanometer cubic accuracy then we’ll just run simulated copies of them, the biggest question is how much of “them” was destroyed by the freeze/thaw/scan process

        But we can probably patch the large bulk of the damage with copies from other people that have undamaged structures,

        It will be a little chimeric, you’ll have your damage replaced with someone else’s or the average of many other people’s intact structures.

        And then the last thing to answer is the Ship Of Theseus problem, is a near perfect copy of you running in a simulated mathematical space still “you” or is there no “you” left ? That’s something only “you” can answer because to the people outside the simulation, the “you” will behave exactly the same as the meat “you”… That’s assuming the simulation technology of say, 500 years in the future, actually is that good.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Compound interest.

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