I actually have coworkers who were complaining about a day off, and saying “everybody’s lazy, nobody wants to work anymore”. Take the day off, and shut up!
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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I hate paid time off. It’s one of the greatest crimes of modern life. I think I’ll campaign to have my union dismantled and my pay cut in half because the current model is clearly ripping off my employer.
Keep in mind that the guy complaining about PTO hasn’t worked a day in his life.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 day ago
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How old are they? I feel like old people have nothing other than their jobs. They never had many hobbies and they never had to raise their kids.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I find its more often they need those hours to afford to live. Sometimes due to poor life choices like owning 5 dirtbikes that don’t run and buying a 6th, but often its just due to how unfair the economy is to low income families.
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 21 hours ago
You mean Americans don’t get paid on holidays?
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’re over 30, but so am I! 😭
limerod@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Tell those coworkers to pick up the slack and work on their day-off. Take the off time for you and others so the aggravted workers feel good and pat their backs.
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m a teacher, so any work they do doesn’t help me, lol
Alaik@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Also we should bring back prima nocta for the holy job creators, and really just bring back slavery. I mean, people can’t afford their own homes and such anyway, imagine how much more EFFECIENT it would be if we could cut through the red tape and get similar results.
-Republicans, unironically^
Tja@programming.dev 1 day ago
Slavery never went away, it’s just slightly more regulated now.
Morganica@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
We still have traditional slavery in prisons.
Tja@programming.dev 14 hours ago
Yup, 13 amendment clearly allows it.
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“Yeah, PTO is gay!” - Guy who works part-time at Dollar General.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
FOR REAL THOUGH. Like every person I have ever heard that has complained about PTO, are people who are in positions that either don’t accrue it, or accrue it so slowly that it’s never usable.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
People who don’t like PTO don’t like it because:
It is implemented in a bullshit way that is often literally illegal…
And it is implemented by idiot/cheap managers who don’t have enough actual staff hours to cover anyone being sick or taking PTO.
The bog standard norm for every kind of min wage tier job is that the manager will just unapprove your vacation that you accrued and scheduled weeks or months ago, and then oops, that also makes it so you haven’t been accumulating more PTO because you hit your max and didn’t use it in time.
Or just any manager that says you can only have a sick day, vacation, or any kind of emergency if you find a replacement for your shift.
That one is particularly amazing because… that is the manager’s job, to do that, not yours.
But this kind of (again, often literally illegal) bullshit is so totally common and normalized amongst these shit ass jobs, that most workers don’t even know how bullshit it is, and will rabidly attack and malign their coworkers instead of blaming their petty tyrant boss.
These people are basically, generally correct in identifying PTO as basically bullshit in these situations, but they’re too overworked and uninformed to put together that… it could be organized/executed in a not bullshit way, and it’s their boss’s (or corporate’s) fault that it isn’t.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Yeah, and unfortunately, like you said, that entire practice is fully illegal in the states. However, most employees are unwilling to report it and then file the evidence of why it was done. Because while there is no mandatory vacation time in the US, if you are provided It as a benefit, it must be something that you can use. And if they are regularly denying your PTO because they don’t have the people to be able to cover it, then they are denying you a benefit which they are legally obligated to provide since they offered it as part of your benefits.
The amount of times that people just decide, oh well it’s only PTO. It’s no biggie. I don’t want to rock the boat. It’s insane. Like my mom lost over 600 hours of PTO because the business closed up and she didn’t fight that they needed to pay it. She doesn’t put two and two together that she’s overall getting paid less because she has the benefit of having that PTO. So if they were to not offer the PTO, they are just paying less.
Your PTO, if offered, is part of your benefits package, meaning that it’s part of your hourly wage calculation. So if you are given PTO and then not being allowed to use it, you are voluntarily being given a demotion.
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I work nights from home, so I hardly ever need to take PTO. Kinda nice at the end of the year though when I typically take November and December off to burn the PTO I can’t carry over into the new year (limited to 40 hours).
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
We used to do this at work. But it would turn out the company basically shut down after thanksgiving because so few people actually took vacation thru out the year.
Now we are on “permissive time off” which means there is no set amount you can take or really… have to take. So in general, people just work more and are pissed off about it