“They’ll take what they can get.” Except for the smart ones. abcnews.go.com/US/…/story?id=95836
Comment on Why are American cops allowed to be morbidly obese?
BossDj@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force. They’ll take what they can get. I’m 100% pro Union, but another problem is that police unions help protect unfit (literally and figuratively) police from being forced to try harder by abusing protected status health claims. I’ve seen in both police and military, they are handed paperwork if they are not meeting fitness expectations, but nothing ever comes of it.
derry@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
BossDj@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
…well shit. Too smart to be an officer is a thing.
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force.
Counterpoint: Americans are already overpoliced and the “understaffing” is only relative to the authoritarians’ desire to make us even more so.
BossDj@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Makes sense. Maybe they wouldn’t be understaffed if they were utilized in places that actually mattered to people
sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
understaffed my asshole
Sprinks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I…i didnt realize this needed staffing…
sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
get to work
Zenith@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
France doesn’t let the police unionize, it’s the only group in the country try explicitly and expressly forbade from unionizing. Police should never be to unionize
kaki@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The only group that can’t unionize is the military, there’s plenty of police unions in France.
truite@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
And they unionize a lot.
cabillaud@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And they smell like far right a lot
octobob@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I live in Pittsburgh and there are literally no cops on duty from like 3-5 AM or something. We haven’t had a police chief in years, and I never see cops unless there’s a violent crime or a car accident or overdose. You can kinda do whatever you want in terms of traffic laws. I’ve never even heard of someone getting a traffic ticket in the city, and most times if you’re actually goin the speed limit you’re a hazard that isn’t following the flow of traffic. Completely different story in the suburbs outside the city.
It kinda rules not gonna lie.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Additionally, cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out. Cities don’t want to pay for that.
So, usually the fitness requirements are only used when applying but aren’t used when you are in the force.
Damage@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
cities that want physically fit officers have unions that demand that they are paid to work out
Seems fairly reasonable to me
verdigris@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Police unions are the only bad union.
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
All labor unions are good. Police unions are not.
This is because police unions are not labor unions, since police are not labor but rather the enforcers for the owner class.
floo@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
They’re illegal in many other countries
Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yes, unions are too democratic, too humane. Police should have only one goal – to protect the government from peons. You can’t risk the police having any resemblance to humans. This might lead to failure in the main goal achievement.
floo@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
Cops aren’t exploited workers, they are armed agents of the state. They are not your friends, allies, etc. And whether or not they are human is entirely debatable. I’ve never seen any evidence to suggest it.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
They have representation in other ways. For instance in Britain, where it is illegal for police to unionise, there is instead a government-funded Police Federation, which independently advocates for police working conditions and supplies advice and representation for police in disciplinary affairs. The main difference from a union is that it is free to members and that police are not allowed to go on strike.
kobra@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
So bad in fact, they’ve often made me wonder if any union is worth it if that’s the risk of what they could become.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
With that mindset, why bother living or leaving the bed? Imagine the worst day you could have, why risk it?
kobra@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Sure, take it 100% literally. Don’t relate to the thought process at all.
You all can’t be serious in that you haven’t thought the same thing. I didn’t say it 100% makes all unions bad I just shared a thought I occasionally have because of how bad the police union is in America.
But yeah let’s fight with each other about it instead of eating the rich, good plan.
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