Comment on Disney Mocked for Ludicrously Fake CGI "Actors" in Crowd Scene

match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really don’t understand why everyone uses AI as a term to describe anything generated by a computer.

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  • hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because technical literacy levels have never really improved.

    It's why every game console is "a Nintendo" to people over 50.

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    • Diplomjodler@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like to play Nintendo on my PlayStation.

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    • xyzzy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Someone who’s 50 today would’ve been 12 in 1985 when the NES was released in North America. Basically the target audience.

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      • hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Literally nothing you said matters.

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  • hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The same way they convinced everyone that they should say “cloud” instead of 'on our servers."

    They stopped saying “algorithm” and started saying “AI”

    Once it’s used as a marketing term, the technical term loses all meaning in conversational language.

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    • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If it’s in your server it’s not in “the cloud”, the cloud is code for “someone else’s server.”

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      • hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I was thinking more from the marketing perspective " We keep your data on our servers!" verses “We keep your data in the cloud!” since the point was that the marketers of these things in particular are fucking up the terminology.

        If you are already in possession of a server then you’re probably aware it’s not a cloud.

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      • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        that’s what they said

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      • match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “cloud” really means “several servers in parallel for redundancy” at which point it is kinda useful

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thanks to all the clickbait headlines, a lot of people suddenly think everything is AI.

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  • roofuskit@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just like every aircraft with 4 rotors is a drone.

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• hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This specific thing is not AI, but that's not actually relevant because this is still an example of the issue at hand. Namely, it's now cheaper to just throw some shitty CG in the background than it is to pay people to be there and executives don't see a problem with this. While this particular example of four or five models may not seem like much (especially using stock-ass animations like that), it's not long before you'll be seeing scenes where fifteen or twenty background extras are replaced by AI driven CG that behaves like someone that played a similar role five years ago whose motions were cataloged and reused.

  THAT is the crux of the issue. The studios basically want to scan and own everyone that ever appears onscreen. It's fucking gross, and it needs to die on the vine.

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  • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    CGI crowds have been a thing for literally decades. I think the last time you needed 100% extras to fill a scene was the 90s.

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    • hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I knew some dink was going to bring up Massive style crowd simulations which is why I VERY FUCKING SPECIFICALLY quoted a small crowd size where individual actions actually matter, which is a far different thing.

      Older style crowd simulations don't really use AI as we define it now. They use preset animations that can be cycled through for various circumstances. A few dozen walk cycles, maybe thirty or forty "CHOP HOBBIT IN HALF" animations, throw in some jumping or arm waving and you've got yourself a crowd simulation.

      That is not what we are talking about.

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    • ours@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But this is so… janky. Usually, they put actors in the front, a couple of “layers” of extras, and then CGI where it’s harder to notice.

      This is so obvious it almost looks like those intentionally janky CGI shorts or music videos and intended to be humorous.

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re wrong. Everything in a headline about a technology story is automatically AI.

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