Comment on Anon discovers cigarettes

mavu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because it’s a drug that makes you feel good?

  More specifically, its a stimulant that makes your brain more active and helps you cut through your exhaustion. Like caffeine, its a “work drug” designed to crank more units of labor out of you in a limited time span, at the expense of your overall health and well-being.

  That’s why capitalist countries have been so loathe to outlaw it, when compared to the creative/transgressive stimulants like LSD and THC.

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• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  TL;DR: Show me someone with any hard-to-quit habit, and I’ll show you someone that’s self-medicating for something.

  This is tragically under-appreciated in our society. Especially when it seems everyone is converging on some kind of self-diagnosis, and collectively coming to a “hey nobody’s normal” conclusion. We’re so very close to framing help as “harm reduction for nicotine” and “maybe it’s also neurodiversity and/or trauma”, but we keep missing the mark and argue about vapes instead.

  Also, as the greentext suggests, I personally think we’re way past the point where people that can avoid starting or can quit easy, have already done so. What you see these days is a rather hard-core use cohort that has complex addiction to work through.

  So… yeah. Helping a friend quit? Please work with them to consider the jenga-tower of adverse psychology that a-pack-a-day might be holding up. It could be way harder to pull off than either of you think.

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    90% of schizophrenic people smoke. It helps their illness. I don’t know if the mechanism has been discovered.

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    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fascinatingly, tobacco has been used as “traditional medicine” by native populations for centuries. In psychedelic ceremonies, it’s very common to have a tobacco component. So I’m sure there’s a link between tobacco and the psyche.

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• theblips@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Apparently there are some people that live under the illusion that nicotine doesn’t actually do anything, I saw one of these guys in another thread. I’m sure whoever placed them under that illusion did it with good intentions, but the implication that there are people getting hooked on it every day just to look cool is so funny

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  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People say the same about caffeine. All it means is you have a high tolerance to something. Doesnt mean addiction but it could be part of it.

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• Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nicotine makes my whole body vibrate and I would describe it as feeling quite high for about 2 minutes

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That goes away when you become a regular smoker.

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  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Interesting. It makes me feel like I suddenly became super heavy, like the Earth’s gravity just dialed up a notch. Oddly, if I were already high on cannabis, a toke of nicotine would take away some of the weed buzz. I know I wouldn’t be “more sober” with both, but it feels like it (which makes me then think that I wasted that weed by doing both.)

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I was a teenager, we would smoke weed then smoke cigarettes really fast to get a head rush on top of the weed. It’s how I got addicted.

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      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Same. Literally chasing highs for like years in high school. Such a dumb idea. Let’s get really good at doing all the drugs!

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    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh it does also make me feel heavy. I usually have to sit down for a moment if I hit a friend’s vape

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    • Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Caffeine doesn’t affect me. Never drank coffee regularly any time in my life, but any time I’ve attempted to use caffeine from any source (including some pretty strong energy drinks) to either wake up, or stay awake, I haven’t felt any different at all.

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  • levzzz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I kinda miss this feeling, I vape 50 mg (or is it really?) salt and I hardly feel anything

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• bitwolf@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I read that the MAOIs in Tobacco can enhance the effects of nicotine.

  Thus, if you really want the fix, the effects will be much stronger.

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• damdy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ADHD and cigarettes pair so nicely. 3 mins of turning off the world every hour is why I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to quit. Being a single unit item is why things like vaping never worked for me either. I had a small amount of luck with cans of fizzy drinks, but I’d need an insane amount and 2 weeks off work with none of my usual triggers for a chance.

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