Honesty is telling the truth to people. Openness is feeling free to express yourself. Empathy is considering other people’s perspectives and taking their feelings into account. People should practice the last one before impulsively acting based on the first 2. It’s called being an adult member of society.
Or just honest, open ones.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 days ago
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Lots of people navigate the world being more open and honest about things the way they are, rather than beating around the bush about everything that could possibly be sensitive.
Being nervous and awkward and avoiding the elephant in the room can draw more attention and self consciousness to it then not.
Being nervous and repressed doesn’t make you the be all arbiter of how to navigate the world.
Pandemanium@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Your personal judgements about others are not “an elephant in the room” that needs to be talked about. They are not objective facts. Ask yourself, when you think someone is unattractive, why is it so important to you that they know you think they are unattractive? What do you think you are accomplishing by bringing it up?
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Let’s use the power of imagination, I can imagine a party where a group is having a conversation where everyone is talking about relative attractiveness and how privileged that’s made them in life, and the rather obviously unattractive partner has walked up and has been quiet for a while so someone makes a joke about the elephant in the room and they move on.
SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It’s not about being open and honest. It’s about that not being relevant. Your opinion on how someone looks isn’t relevant, helpful, or necessary unless it’s directly asked for.
There’s nothing awkward, nervous, or repressed about not going out of your way to open your mouth and make someone feel bad about themselves. You can simply not fucking say something that crosses your mind.
“Brutally honest” people are incredibly annoying. They think they’ve discovered a social cheat code so they can get away with being an absolute ass because they’re just an Honest Person™.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
It’s not about being open and honest. It’s about that not being relevant. Your opinion on how someone looks isn’t relevant, helpful, or necessary unless it’s directly asked for.
They could have literally been having a conversation about their relative attractiveness when it came up. At the time I posted this, we didn’t have more context on what exactly was said, beyond the initial incredibly vague description of “comments being made”.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 days ago
beating around the bush
everything that could possibly be sensitive
Being nervous and awkward
avoiding the elephant in the room
self consciousness
You’re literally strawman-ing what I said. Empathy is considering others. It really is that simple…
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Yes, and it’s perfectly possible to have commented on someone’s unattractiveness in an empathetic way.
In this case it sounds like neither their friend nor their father did, and I personally wouldn’t because it seems like a minefield, but I have seen cleverer friends and family navigate those minefields.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Sounds like someone didn’t check their empathy before posting honestly!
relation_anon4238@thelemmy.club 2 days ago
My friend is blunt, my dad is rude
samus12345@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Being shallow and being honest are not mutually exclusive. At all.
erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Nothing irks me more than the “sharing your unasked for opinion at any time is just telling the truth” crowd. Come on. You must know the difference between honesty and integrity for the sake of good communication and being insensitive because it’s “the truth.” You’re not being honest, regardless of the truth of your beliefs, you’re being a dick if you tell someone they’re not attractive without being asked.
If someone asks, “Am I attractive,” not fishing for compliments but asking for an opinion, you wouldn’t be a dick for saying “I wouldn’t describe you as conventionally attractive,” or “you aren’t my type, so not to me.” You would still be a dick for saying either of those things to someone who didn’t ask, or delivering your answer in an inconsiderate manner. Truth doesn’t make your words right. You can be correct and still very wrong.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Nothing irks me more than people who lump people into categories so they can rage out at a made up charicature and feel a social media vindication high.
erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Can you elaborate? What is “honest and open” about being rude to someone for no reason?
masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Lmao, yeah, keep going, you’ve almost gotten yourself off