Comment on French culture

• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But the pronunciations are different word by word. French letter combos make the same sound even if they are not each pronounced the American away, which is nice as a French novice.

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• NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  most of the letters

  Queue

  (and why the fuck Mike and Nike aren’t pronounced similarly?)

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    (and why the fuck Mike and Nike aren’t pronounced similarly?)

    Well “Mike” is a typical appreciation of the name Micheal of Hebrew origin that long predates the English language. “Nike” is Ancient Greek, which also predates the English Language. Nike is the name of the Greek god of victory. So neither one of those is English.

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    • Rubanski@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s like how you pronounce Hercules and molecules the same way

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hercules

        An Ancient Roman proper name derived from an Ancient Greek proper name Heracles, which is likely where we get our clues for modern pronunciation.

        molecules

        Thats a French word they built from a Latin base. Take it up with them on that one.

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    • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But why is pronounced “Nai-ki” and not “Ny-ke”? We here don’t give a fuck a say “Nike” like Mike.

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We here don’t give a fuck a say “Nike” like Mike.

        The single syllable “Nike” pronunciation was introducing in the late 1980s or early 1990s with the advertising campaign for “Nike Air” shoes. Sometimes pop culture name shortening sticks. Another example of this would be the brand Porsche has two syllables, but has been shortened by most to a single syllable name.

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  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    literally a french word

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  • Adiemus@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A better example might be “home” and “some”, where only one letter is different, but the pronounciation is completely different. There are many words like these. English doesn’t make sense at all.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mike and Nike are pronounced similarly

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are…it’s a regional thing

    See here m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkg5nLOgxII

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• Soup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  French does pronounce most of the letters, they just tend to drop the last one. Then there’s our “though” which is often shortened to “tho” with no consequence. English is not creative, either, most of the time the words were actually pronounced in a way that matches and time changed how we spoke them. That and we just kinda lifted the spelling of loan words but said them differently because whichever of our many accents at the time made it otherwise uncomfortable to say.

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  • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    English needs a major spelling reform, but there’s no way to actually implement one. In order to match spelling to pronunciation, you would be to have a well-defined “high English” pronunciation.

    But any semblance of uniform pronunciation doesn’t even exist within the UK (or even just England), much less across the entire English-speaking world, including places like Canada, Kenya, Nigeria, Australia, New Zealand, India, and many, many more countries.

    And even if you somehow manage to create something (this is basically how “high German” was created, after all), good luck getting all the different governments to adopt the reformed spelling.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      also good luck basically upheaving the entire ESL world by making all the texbooks obsolete. would be pretty wild

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  • obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The letter ‘h’ just entered the chat.

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    • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In French? Yea, it’s there it’s just called, some of the time anyway, an aspirated H. It’s also pretty rare and I’d be willing to bet that that is due to loan words.

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• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh. Yeah. Right. Sure. Let’s say that.

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