Comment on Please consider supporting Lemmy development

td_sp@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• hakase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  That’s correct. People actively shilling for authoritarian regimes committing human rights atrocities, denying genocides, and aggressively silencing all dissent do not deserve it.

  All they’d have to do is develop from behind the scenes and not actively contribute to one of the worst places on the platform, and I’d have no problem donating to them.

  But they don’t, and so I don’t, and instead I get to listen to your whataboutism, literally the guy in the “and yet you participate in society” meme.

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  • nutomic@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Lemmy dev here, for what its worth I stopped posting about politics years ago, and also dont do any moderation on lemmy.ml besides occasionally banning an obvious spam account. I simply dont have the time or interest anymore, and prefer to focus my time on development which benefits all Lemmy users.

    Posting from alt account because these comments are not federating to my home instance.

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    • hakase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If that were to become the enforced position of the entire dev team, I promise that I will donate, and provide receipts.

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a perfectly sensible position, but the money doesn’t go just to you.

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      • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It also goes to lemmyml costs.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      Nobody should give you money.

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      • el_abuelo@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What would be the correct way to voice opposing views about these issues?

        Genuinely asking as to my ignorant eyes this looks like a reasonable way of discussing the issues, so I must have some kind of wrongthink here and would love to be guided back to a place where people can discuss opposing views safely.

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    • person1@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hi Nutomic. I’m new to Lemmy. I was quite impressed with what you have built, and was looking forward to helping Lemmy grow. It must have taken a lot of your effort. I was really enthusiastic about the project and a few weeks back your appeal for funding would probably have had me donating something.

      Unfortunately, I’ve already have had some bad experiences on your instance. I probably would have stayed away from it had I known what it stood for, but - as someone pointed out - this is the oldest instance, has some of the largets forums, so naturally that’s where many people land first.

      And it really is quite an image problem for Lemmy. Someone compared you to Elon tanking (sorry for the bad pun) Tesla sales. Sure, up to some point one can say, imperfect allies, separation of code and ideology, that kind of thing. But I think you see from the comments that for a lot of people it’s too much.

      For me, the combination of your views and what’s represented by .ml fundamentally undermined my trust in Lemmy as a platform. I don’t have the means to validate claims of code or development processs being impartial. It could well be that you did a lot of excellent work and have superb integrity in separating your views from your contributions. I just honestly don’t trust that is the case.

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  • td_sp@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That meme literally says ‘We should improve society somewhat’ and lemmy is a perfect example of something that is ‘improved somewhat’ when you compare it to literally any other social media driven solely by profit and algorithms that reward whatever content the owners want.

    But the keyboard warriors now prefer lemmy die because comments a dev who isn’t in control of the software said… Anyways I’m donating monthly now

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lemmy won’t die. They’ll have enough money to develop the software if they just take lemmy.ml offline, and then they’d get more donation money overnight.

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• Abnorc@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I don’t think they deserve it. It wouldn’t be undeserved for them to get help, but I don’t see why people would voluntarily contribute money to the devs for something like this.

  And meanwhile every day you forgo your moral codes to buy all kinds of shit. Otherwise you’d be living in the middle of a remote island.

  This is a different story, for exactly the reason that you pointed out. You can hardly even buy food, clothing, and shelter without inadvertently supporting an unethical business, but you still have to buy them. Supporting the development of a product that you could quite easily live without is truly a free choice by comparison.

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• AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We should not discard imperfect allies.

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• burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  this is like you going out of your way to offer to give me a ride to the airport, and then you get mad at me for not being gracious enough about it, and then you accidentally hit a pedestrian at some point afterwards and use that against me.

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  • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, it’s about someone building a car for you while also driving their own car. The car they built for you is unquestionably good even if you don’t like where they drive their own version. I don’t think it’s unfair for them to ask compensation for maintenance on YOUR version

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• anas@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• iii@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s so surprising that a forum with mostly commie ideologues has a hard time finding non-freeloaders amongst the members

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