No, you’re wrong.
Everyone that studies crimes for a living, you know, people with PhDs, who publish peer reviewed studids on mass shootings?
Precise definitions vary somewhat, but basically, a mass shooting is any instance where 4+ people are injured or killed by gunfire, in a single, temporaly and geographically constrained event.
Gas station robbery gone wrong? 3 people injured, one dead, by gunfire?
That’s a mass shooting.
Because a mass of people… got shot.
A mass shooting related to gang activity… is a gang related mass shooting.
It is a subset of the category ‘mass shooting’, not a completely different thing.
You csn take that definition and apply it backward 40 , 60 years, and you will still see a massive, massive rise in the number of mass shootings in the last 20 years, number of people injured or killed by gunfire in mass shootings.
Zoomers are about 3x more likely to personally know someone injured or killed in a mass shooting than Boomers. For Millenials, its about 2x.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So… I’m curious why you think gang shootings shouldn’t count or is a bit disingenuous to include.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
It’s disingenuous because they’re not everywhere. They’re in a specific subset of high crime areas.
It’s a very own problem in its own right, but when including in a statistic used to represent all of America as shooting people up is what makes it a poor and often intentionally misleading statistic as compared to how safe you actually are in the average area
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
and it regularly involves a specific group of people, often times doesn’t really even involve every day normal people, as opposed to a mass shooting, where the literal point is killing normal people.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Exactly! We’re not having hundreds of random shootings in a given year, a very small subset are those crazy, heinous shootings where someone decides to hurt as many people as possible. Most of the incidents don’t make national news because they’re something like a drive by or similar.
We should absolutely fix the gang problems, but the solutions there are very different from the solutions for random mass shootings.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Nice dog whistle.
The virctims in gang violence include innocent bystanders.
We all know exactly what you’re really saying here and you’ll deny and make excuses about it.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
because it’s a statistical anomaly, it’s like including capital punishment in homicide numbers.