Half of me still thinks that whole “attempt” was staged
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Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Exhibit A: The Photo Op with the fist raised
I mean, who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you. It’s like they knew there’s only one gunman. Sus af 🤔
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
13igTyme@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Also all the blood. Then no damage on the ear a few days later. 78 year olds don’t heal that fast.
n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No one heals cartilage. Especially not a 78 year old dottering fool whose primary source of nutrition is McDonalds.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
I also wondered that, but honestly man there’s almost no fucking way. 😂 That was a very real bullet, that went through his ear, and killed the man behind him. Combine that with all the different random-ass factors others have mentioned with the ludicrously small margin of error. Turn your head at just the right time or fucking die.
Combine that with the shooter being a random child that looks like he had fetal alcohol syndrome, that’s the “man” carefully staging a very near-miss shooting. 🥴 I mean FFS, look at his face. I wouldn’t trust him with a complicated McD’s order, let alone shooting at my fucking ear and not killing me. 😂
The only way it was staged was if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was very willing to die & become a martyr, which frankly I think he’s not against if it came to that, but it’s very clear the man loves life/living. Trump doesn’t want to die.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
A bullet never went through his ear. The FBI amended their statement to say he was ‘grazed’ by a bullet or a bullet fragment, after initially questioning if he had been hit at all (because his medical team withheld all information from them during the investigation - which was unusual and suspicious). I mean you could see plain as day just a few weeks later when he removed the bandage his ear was almost completely undamaged.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 4 weeks ago
Yeah, that was poor wording on my part, probably just because that’s the terminology I hear all the time. I should probably amend that.
It’s true, due to the nature of the ear being really close to the head, the bullet didn’t pierce a hole through his ear. I don’t accept the bullet fragment theory, idk, I don’t see very-very accurate bullet fragments mid-flight. The bullets themselves can tumble or do crazy patterns, depending on weight & caliber, etc. I think the most logical working theory is the fully intact bullet grazing his ear mid-flight. Ears really can bleed heavily even from small cuts/pimples, at least mine do.
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KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
that was all for publicity though lmao
1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He had a 2x optic on the rifle.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Not what I heard. But if that was the case then he was a worse shot than anticipated. He still came VERY close though.