Soldiers have a lot more than that drilled into them. Obeying authority, pushing down your own emotions, lots of shit.
I would never be a soldier.
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Wilco@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Not fair to the military veterans.
They got “That’s not a woman, it’s a female soldier” drilled into them.
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Cocopanda@futurology.today 3 weeks ago
And from friends personal experiences. Your back and knees die in the service.
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
After having been in the military, it’s weird to hear people talk about the military who have never served.
Obeying authority? Sure, until ranking up and becoming the authority.
Pushing down emotions? More like learning to have control over our emotions, where those emotions do not control us.
Never be a soldier, but a fighter if needed?
That’s basically what I did. Most military jobs are non-combat that are trained to fight if needed but if they are needed than we’ve got way bigger problens than just fighting.
It will kill your soul? I for one certainly have regrets, but my soul feels intact.
Not everyone should join the military, it’s certainly not for everyone. Some people who thought it was all they ever wanted to do find out quickly that it’s not for them and leave. Whole other’s who thought they’d just join for 4 years for the college money and bail end up making a career of it and retire after 20 years.
I’m indifferent, I just did my 4 years and got out.
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Fair points. Its just that so many soldiers seem to he traumatized by what they experience. If you didnt see much combat, of course you wont be affected by that.
I would fight for a good leader. Someone with wisdom, courage, integrity. Those people are very rare.
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Though only 10% of the military serves in direct combat roles, those who actually serve in combat can certainly be traumatized by their experience.
The silver lining of serving in the military is that we are obligated not to follow illegal orders and the path to gaining rank in the military more often than not will instill wisdom and integrity after having their courage tested.
I am thankful to have served with so many servicemembers who demonstrated their wisdom, integrity, and courage and stood up for what they knew was right even when the people we elect are unable to do the same.
moakley@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Female” is fine as an adjective. It’s when it’s used as a noun that it becomes a problem. But that’s not a new rule or anything.
Consider when someone says “Black people” vs “the Blacks”.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Knew a guy that got the one-two punch of being a soldier then being a cop. Would describe people like “male, Caucasian, average build” when we were out at bars.
Wilco@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
The language culture is probably the strangest part about the military, and probably the police force as well. I know the military lingo was hard to stop using, but I couldn’t imagine going from one institutional language to the next.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
It’s a useful skill to have if you’re able to master it, language switching. You can establish credibility/experience or lack of depending on your audience and your intentions.
I’ve never served but sometimes people assume that I have because of how I carry myself. So I’ll avoid phrases and sayings consistent with military personnel, maybe toss in words used in movies and video games to give the impression that my knowledge of the military stems mostly from those.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
There are a lot of things unfair to vets, we can add this to the pile
mle86@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
That may be but if they would shorten “female soldier”, wouldn’t they refer to her as “a soldier” and not “a female”?
Wilco@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yes, we heard “that is just a soldier” as well. They just didn’t like the terms lady or woman, you had to use “female”.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
it’s an adjective, not a noun. but I hear it everywhere, mostly on newscasts and other broadcasts. so I just call em ‘broads’ (/s)
Wilco@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
You can’t call chicks ‘broads’ anymore, its not civilized. (/s)
zedgeist@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I prefer to call’em dames.