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abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoThat’s still degrading to fellators.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
find me people who suck cock that actually give a fuck about other people calling people cocksuckers and we can talk.
And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.
nobody is arguing that sucking cock is submissive??? The argument is that being a cocksucker is a submissive thing.
Or you trolling? Or are you actually serious?
That’s still degrading to fellators.
I swear, if folks like you had your way the future would be a world like Demolition Man where there’s microphones listening to everyone’s conversations and people get fined every time they say something someone finds offensive, which is a retarded future I don’t want to live in.
BZZZZT! LudwigVonPseudonym, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
^ This bitch is a racist who called arabs “camel fuckers”.
Too lazy to write two separate responses? I’ll try!
“Don’t be a bigot” = dystopian future
Sound logic.
Oh shit, that’s the same message, guess you will have to read it twice, maybe that way it will get through to you.
You can be better, reflect on your bigotry and grow as a person.
No, pumpkin.
Using the term “cocksucker” doesn’t make anyone a bigot.
In fact? Shit like this is precisely why you limp-wristed pansy Democrats lost the election - You spent all your time and political power trying to police everyone over petty “microaggressions” when you certainly had much bigger problems to deal with.
How about YOU “do better”? How about YOU “reflect on your mistakes”? How about YOU “grow as a person”? Because it’s damn time you self-righteous fucking liberals did so before you have another massive loss in the 2026 midterms.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
its still at the end of the day giving pleasure to another. giving the key word: power thing. its the same atmosphere as bootlicker
papertowels@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
If you think going down on someone is only a submissive act you haven’t gone down on someone long enough.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
thats not what i think im explaining the insult
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Being submissive in sex can be expressed in a blowjob, but so can being dominant. Most sexual acts can be both dominant and submissive under the right context. For example a person can forcibly (consensually) throw the other person down, pin them to the floor and start going down on them while not letting them orgasm. Is the person being overpowered and forced to be frustrate by not orgasming the one in power?
Your understanding of mutual respect and love is unhealthy if you compare going down on someone to bootlicking.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
im comparing an insult to bootlicking. jesus christ you people really feel like arguing over absolutely nothing
MTK@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think you are missing the point, which is that “cocksucker” should not be used as an insult because it’s homophobic. Even if you personally identify it as a power dynamic insult, it does not change the fact that it is rooted in homophobia and that the OOP most likely used it without any thought as to its meaning and history but rather it just came to him as a viable insult (internalized homophobia)
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Okay but like, in regular penis-in-vagina sex, the man is (theoretically) giving pleasure to the woman while also doing all the work. Is that still power play? Is pussyfucker the same as cocksucker?
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
i mean yeah, pussyfucker if you used as an insult would be quite a weird insult to throw, but it would work i suppose.
Motherfucker is also in the same vein like the other commenter suggested.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
pussyfucker isnt an insult ive ever heard but motherfucker is
cocksucker reminds me of the prison mentality of making someone your bitch so thats where im getting the power play from
abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Exactly, pussyfucker isn’t an insult because traditionally there was nothing wrong with fucking pussy, but calling someone a cocksucker is implying they’re either gay or a woman
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
So, if you were to replace ‘cocksucker’ with ‘towelhead’, slut, Yid, or Nig*** would that still just be a power thing?
Not that it actually makes a difference. This ‘power thing’ you refer to is controlling abuse for self interest. Introducing a predudice is just a way of trying to justify and/or hide the abuse.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
im sorry are we equating cocksucker, and the n word to be on the same level of offensive slur?
Redfox8@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
No, the discussion was not about whether different words were of equal or differing offensiveness. My discussion is about what saying ‘it’s a power thing’ actually means and how it relates to abusive behaviour.