That’s so weird, HDR is supposed to do the exact opposite of this.
The again, Samsung… Don’t buy Samsung anymore, it’s been a trash brand for a long time now
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jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 week ago
“Even playing in HDR…”
Maybe that’s part of the problem? HDR implementation on my Samsung sets is garbage, I have to disable it to watch anything. Too bad too, because the picture is gorgeous without it.
HDR On:
HDR Off:
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Yup, yup. Highly rated when I bought them, but in actual usage? Not so much.
Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 week ago
I got a samsung monitor last year too (it was the cheapest and I keep seeing reddit praise them) and it has such a terrible hdr experience. When hdr is on either dark colors are light grayish, brights are too dark, everything’s too bright or colors are over saturated. I’ve tried every combination of adjusting brightness / gamma from the screen and/or from kde but couldn’t figure out a simple way to easily turn down the brightness at night without some sort of image issue popping up. So recently I gave up and turned hdr off. Also if there are very few bright areas on the screen it seems to decrease its overall screen brightness, which also affects color saturation bcz of course.
I really wish there was a ‘no smart image fuckery’ toggle in the settings.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I didn’t really understand the benefit of HDR until I got a monitor that actually supports it.
And I don’t mean simply can process the 10-bit color values, I mean has a peak brightness of at least 1000 nits.
That’s how they trick you. They make cheap monitors that can process the HDR signal and so have an “HDR” mode, and your computer will output an HDR signal, but at best it’s not really different from the non-HDR mode because the monitor can’t physically produce a high dynamic range image.
If you actually want to see an HDR difference, you need to get something like a 1000-nit OLED monitor (note that “LED” often just refers to an LCD monitor with an LED backlight). Something like one of these: www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/
These aren’t cheap. I don’t think I’ve seen one for less than maybe $700. That’s how much it costs unfortunately. I wouldn’t trust a monitor that claims to be HDR for $300.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 days ago
See my “set 2” links above. (at the time) $3,200 8K television, “If you want the brightest image possible, use the default Dynamic Mode settings with Local Dimming set to ‘High’, as we were able to get 1666 nits in the 10% peak window test.”
HDR still trash.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
8K TVs are all LCD and $3200 is on the low end of 8K TVs. So yeah of course you’d get a trash image.
Lojcs@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Nope, it does have wide color gamut and high-ish brightness, wouldn’t buy unless reviews said it was ok. But it does some fuckery to the image I can only imagine could be to make non-hdr content pop on windows but ends up messing up the image coming from kde. I can set it up to look alright in either in a light or dark environment but the problem is I can’t quickly switch between them without fiddling with all the settings again.
Compared to my cooler master a grayscale gradient on it has a much sharper transition from crushed bright to gray but then gets darker much slower as well, to a point where unless a color is black it appears darker on the cm despite it having an ips screen. Said gray also shows up as huge and very noticable red green and blue bands on it, again unlike the cm which also has banding but at least the tones of gray are similiar.
Also unrelated but just noticed while testing the monitors, max sdr brightness slider of kde seems to have changed again. Hdr content gets darker on the last 200 nits while sdr gets brighter. Does anyone know anything about that? I don’t think that’s how it’s supposed to work
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Yeesh sounds like your monitors color output is badly calibrated :/. Fixing that requires an OS level calibration tool. I’ve only ever done this on macOS so I’m not sure where it is on Windows or Linux.
Also in general I wouldn’t use the non-hdr to hdr conversion features. Most of them aren’t very good. Also a lot of Linux distros don’t have HDR support (at least the one I’m using doesn’t).
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Smart TV having absolutely horrible default settings and filters that ruin any viewing experience has little to do with HDR because the TV isn‘t even processing HDR images most of the time. That stuff is already mixed and there‘s not much any device can do to give you details in the darks and brights back. It‘s a much different story when you‘re actually processing real color information like in a video game. HDR should absolutely help you see in the dark here.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I WISH it was the default settings. I went through every calibration and firmware update I could find. Even the model specific calibrations on rtings.com. Nothing made a difference.
It appears to just be a flaw in Samsung’s implementation. After going through all the Samsung forum information, the only suggestion that’s guaranteed to work is “turn it off”.
Set #1:
www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000
Calibration:
www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/…/settings
Set #2:
False@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I turn off HDR whenever I can. I think it looks bad
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 days ago
It’s one of those things where it looks good where in like the case of a video game, the GAME’s implementation of it is good AND your Console/PCs implementation is good AND your TV/Monitor’s implementation is good. But like unless you’ve got semi-deep pockets, at least one of those probably isn’t good, and so the whole thing is a wash.
False@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yeah, it’s very believable that the tech is finicky and it’s very easy for it to look bad.
ka1ikasan@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Wow, the whole room becomes brighter with HDR off /s
jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ve been told HDR is not for bright rooms, you have to make everything dark…
Yeah…