Comment on Cathy, do the math.

• Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What kind of 5th dimensional chess are you trying to play where penalizing someone for joining a union is “caving to the union’s demands?”

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    if salaries depend on union decisions then surely they are following the union’s demands.

    i think the thing that makes it confusing is the missing context of whether unionised workers at that site are being paid less than non-union workers. i assumed the answer was no because it sounded like they had a CBA that the person was not aware of, since the alternative would have been immediately struck down by any union worth its salt.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      My guess would be that this person is part of the collective bargaining block, but does not pay dues (possibly public sector). So the contract she describes was negotiated by the Union, and is the same contract that everyone in her position gets, union or otherwise.

      Could be wrong, but the above situation is unfortunately pretty common.

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  • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They can’t cut union wages that’s the whole point of collective bargaining and they’re just maintaining competition with union rates which is legal. That competition might be specifically devised to draw potential employees away from union contracts and people may be dumb enough to go for it but that’s capitalism however fun that may be.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    One of the goals of unions is to increase worker pay. Mission accomplished.

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    • HalfSalesman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The issue here is that if more people choose not to join a union for the pay raise in the short term, unions become weaker in the longer term. The capitalist in this case is paying a premium now to divide up labor for the chance down the line to save more money on labor overall in the long term.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Thank you, this is exactly what I said, but since you don’t have a .ml next to your name people might not just randomly attack you over it.

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    • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Great, they increased pay for non-union workers, the workers leave the union for increased pay, now the company cuts union pay, and now there’s no organization for the workers to do anything about it. “Mission accomplished” indeed.

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      • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes that’s capitalism, how exactly you’re baffled by that this late in life is in itself quite the quandary.

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