Comment on AI will replace us all... trust me

• kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s already better than most autocomplete features (including for programming) and excellent at making placeholder text. That’s two more uses than NFTs ever had.

  Will it replace us all? Not soon. But it at least does something other than use energy.

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• Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Im not quite who you guys are talking about, but im pretty close. I dont have any issues with people talking about how poor current AI is, but it seems pointless. Its like pointing out that a toddler is bad at spelling. My issue comes in when people say that AI will always be useless. Even now its not useless. And top commentor did already point out the key detail: this is as bad as it will ever be.

  There is nothing stopping AI from becoming better at everything you can do than you are. Everything until then is just accoimating us to that world. Ai isnt going to be the next big thing, its going to be the only big thing ever. It will literally be more impactful on this galaxy than all of humanity excluding the creation of AI.

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  • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    These things can’t think and they don’t reason no matter what they call the model. Toddlers can do both of those things.

    Until we have another breakthrough at the level of neural networks AI will only be as good as the sum total of the training data and therefore only as good (or bad) as humans can be, never better.

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    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But this is one case where we know its possible to create those sorts of ais, because its effectively what nature does with the huamn mind. It might be entirely possible that true ai is a biology exclusive issue. Or, as is much more likely, it can be replicated through circuitry.

      Tangentially related, how do you define thinking and reasoning? I would argue it cannot think however it can currently reason fairly well, even if that reasoning is flawed due to hallucinations. It has issues that i dont want to downplay, but i havent seen any reason to suggest that modern ai has any issues reasoning when all factors are controlled (not using a censored model, enough token memory, not hallucinating, etc)

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        People who claim AI can’t do X never have an actual definition of X.

        I’ve been challenging people with that same basic question (“How do you define understanding? How do you define reasoning?”) and it’s always, 100% of the time, the end of the conversation. Nobody will even try to make a definition.

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  • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Don’t use inexact language if you don’t mean it. Think carefully— do you mean everything?

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m sure he does. I mean it too.

      If you disagree, name something you don’t think AI will surpass humans in.

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      • unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Being held accountable for outputs provided

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      • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Folly. You’re living proof.

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• melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m convinced a lot of them are being paid.

  a not insubstantial amount of the world’s resources are going to this shit. most of the cutting edge chip making capacity for the past few years has been for increasingly specialized parts for running these fucking things. plus the intellectual resources to design them.

  and the electrical+water resources to run them are staggering-some places are having brownouts, or cannot build more very necessary houses, because the water is being used up to cool these things and then thrown away after.

  there is no real mass use case yet. it’s not genuinely good for anything. but it’s part of a large scale grift to discipline labor. the social reaction if it fails will be a massive resurgance in the political power of labor, and a collapse of trillions of dollars of fictionalized wealth concentrated mostly in the wealthiest hands.

  in a very real way, this is a fight for the soul of the world. for what the future could possibly be. for who gets to be in charge.

  yes, one side is built entirely on lies. they always have been. they always will be, until we strangle the last one of those fuckers with some other poor dumbfuck’s entrails. that just means their dominance, in such a high stakes era, with so many looming challenges, is likely to mean the end of all life on earth.

  so they’re paying a lot of people to push this shit. to push this shit everywhere.

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  • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t get why the water is wasted in the way it seems to be. We’ve had closed loop cooling systems in vehicles for years, are they really producing more waste heat than an ICE?

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    • melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      yes but this is cheaper, I guess. why should they care about the environment?

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The reason why it’s charged for me is that AI is already the next big thing, which is extremely scary.

  And the only thing scarier than a scary monster is a scary monster that some people refuse to acknowledge is in the room.

  People calling AI a nothing burger scare the fuck out of me.

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