This looks like a Subaru. That being said, from what I’ve parsed, their privacy policy looks better than most. My 2021 hasn’t had any obnoxious OTA updates. The worst it does is push easily dismissed service notifications. No secret codes on how to reset a light.
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yoz@aussie.zone 2 years ago
Which car manufacturer ? So that I can avoid it.
Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 years ago
yoz@aussie.zone 2 years ago
How does this update even happen? Are owners connecting their car to internet?
Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 years ago
The car has some form of AT&T GSM connectivity. I recently discovered a WiFi hot spot setting and it’s a paid service provided by AT&T. I am able to schedule service appointments via the car, and it has an SOS button and an “Info” button that primarily is for roadside assistance. I’d prefer to be able to disable it. I was gonna say I thought Subaru was a bit better. Buttttt it looks like I’m wrong.
scottywh@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I’d like to know this as well…
If not, are they using some always on GSM data connection or something?
Doesn’t sound like something I’d want unless there’s somehow an actual significant Value Add proposition that I’m just not seeing.
pokemaster787@ani.social 2 years ago
Yeah, pretty much all new cars have some amount of cellular connectivity. Usually you can’t actually use it without paying some subscription, but the manufacturers use it to push updates.
watson387@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
It is a Subaru. I know it has a radio in it but I don’t pay for the service. I actually don’t know if it’s using its own radio or the connection on my phone. I’ve had the car for most of the year and this is the first update I’ve seen. It took about 10-12 minutes. As I have no patience, sitting in my driveway waiting for it to finish drove me nuts, but for the most part it was painless. It’s definitely something I don’t want to have to get used to.
PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 2 years ago
We’ve had the ascent since 2019 and I have never seen it update. I figured it was doing it in the background swapping boot banks or something.
anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 years ago
All of them, soon enough. Light bulb companies realized a long time ago that selling products is a self-defeating game, you want either planned obsolescence, or sell a “service” through a permanent subscription model.
RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
We seriously need strict regulations to reign in this bullshit.
Subscription anything needs be illegal unless it’s an active service being provided.
Screens should be flat out banned in cars. Fuck your infotainment and sale features, I don’t care. If we agree that phones too dangerous to use while driving (and they are), then a having a fucking tablet glued to the dash is literally different. Plus, we’re still in a global chip shortage, we should be conserving them for more important things.
Self driving features can fuck right off. It’s absolutely mind-boggling how these systems are allowed on public roads with zero regulatory oversight.
Most active safety features are bullshit workarounds for shitty design and engineering that create massive blindspots. They also create lazy, complacent drivers who become dependent on tech that subject to equipment and logic failures. Good visibility can’t just suddenly stop working.
Anything bigger than a sedan or station wagon should require a special license for industrial and ag use only. Fuck your compensation-mobiles, they’re literally killing us in more ways than one.
None of this will ever happen because we know who really owns our governments.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
spirinolas@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Can’t say I agree. The appearance of GPS was a game changer for me and a lot of people. I still remember the old days where every time I picked the car in an unfamiliar place was a gamble. I can’t even count how many gas I wasted going in circles looking for a reference. Found road works? I’m fucked again, I guess.
No, I don’t miss those days at all. Now, if you want to tell me infotainment screens need strict regulations, that’s another story. Nothing beyond android auto apps, radio and options that only work in a full stop should be allowed. But “voting” with your wallet works. When I bought my car I was indecisive between 2 of them. The fact one of them had most stuff in a infotainment that was below the driver FOV made my choice easy. The one I bought has most buttons as physical ones. The only the radio isn’t. The screen is small and I can use it without taking your eyes off the road (which I only use for google maps, spotify and taking calls).
It’s also our responaibility as buyers to know what we’re getting. I see a lot of people complaining about stuff in their car they should’ve known while they were still in the looking phase. If you can’t research the car you’re buying before you buy it then you deserve all the disappointment.
RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
Nah. Plan ahead, use your phone’s GPS with voice instructions.
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jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
Not really…
anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yes really. Educate yourself: www.wikiwand.com/en/Phoebus_cartel
spongebue@lemmy.world 2 years ago
So like… do you want to say anything more than “I’m right and this is wrong”? Because I’ve seen that video before and I’m still feeling the opposite way you are
JamesFire@lemmy.world 2 years ago
They’re responding to the “Light Bulb Companies” part, not the “selling quality products” part. That video very clearly (10-15 mins too long) shows that Light Bulb Companies had legitimate reasons for limiting light bulb hours.
While the Phoebus Cartel may have artificially limited the lifespan of lightbulbs, there was a legitimate reason to do so, and it wasn’t just planned obsolescence so you buy more.
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jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
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