Comment on Centuries-old leasehold system to be abolished in England and Wales

Weslee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There was a vote in 2011 to change the voting system that the idiots of the UK voted against changing. I was a kid then and that was the first time I voted but even as someone who has almost zero interest in politics I could see that moving away from fptp was the (what I thought) obvious choice.

  Apparently not.

  After the absolute farce that was brexit as well I don’t believe the the population of the UK are able to make a good decision that benefits the country and general populace. The majority of the population aren’t able to employ critical thinking and are just easily lead towards shitty decisions.

  I don’t believe that even if we did get another vote to change this terrible system that it would actually pass unfortunately. I have no faith in the ability of this population to make good decisions.

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  • thisismyname@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The problem with that referendum was that unless you can confidently and clearly explain why a change is better than the status quo then people tend to stick with what they know.

    The offer in that vote didn’t clearly show an improvement to FPTP. The question wasn’t “should we enact proportional representation or not?”. The question wasn’t “Of these five voting systems which would you prefer?”

    The question was “At present, the UK uses the “first past the post” system to elect MPs to the House of Commons. Should the “alternative vote” system be used instead?”

    The alternative vote system doesn’t really have any obviously huge advantages over FPTP. It doesn’t offer proportional representation.

    This short video explains it well:

    youtu.be/3Y3jE3B8HsE

    Obviously, any improvement is better than no improvement but people tend not to like change so you have to very clearly state what they will gain from changing. And that didn’t happen.

    This playlist has a few videos explaining voting systems if you’d like to learn more:

    youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqs5ohhass_RN57KWlJKLO…

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    • frazorth@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That and it was the Brexit pre-cursor.

      Would you like this dying child to get a ventilator, or an alternative voting system?

      Turns out, you’ll have neither.

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    • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks for the additional info. I am generally not super knowledgeable on politics so I will go check out your links :)

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  • rah@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The majority of the population aren’t able to employ critical thinking and are just easily lead towards shitty decisions.

    But… but… democracy!

    /s

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They never will. Labour and the Tories love it too much.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe the Tories won’t like it so much now Screaming Lord Farage has split their vote.

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    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No they’ll still love it. And coincidentally that’s the same reason Labour won’t adopt it either. All of the Greens, Reform, and Lib Dems split their vote too.

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