Comment on Germany right now

aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• excral@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  To be fair, Germany is still far better off than the US or some other European countries. In the national election that just happened, the far right party won about 20% of the votes and the (traditionally) centre-right party won while moving further to the right. That said they’re still about as far right as the Democrats in the US.

  It’s just that Germans are on alert about the rise of fascism and are raising the alarm bells now, before the fascist actually take over control.

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• SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  to be fair, this is the image the center parties have and upkeep. I, as a farly left person, already question if this seperation to right extremism will still be upheld in 4 years. Our Center-right partie CDU falls more and more for populist rethoric, which reminds me of the republicans or the toris.

  So what you have been told is not wrong per se. But there is a significant amount of people in the country and politicans in the parlaiment, that argue the seperation between right exremism and center parties did already collaps behind the scenes.

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• Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I don’t want to start a war or anything but as someone from neither the USA or Europe, Europeans online often come across as even more exceptionalist than Americans, despite the reputation to the contrary. Because, at least in leftish or liberal spaces, no one is more ready to shit on and call out the USA than Americans. And I don’t mean they’re anti-American or whatever, they just want their country to be better, so they call out all the shit.

  Europeans on the other hand often seem more proud and / or defensive about their countries. Maybe they speak openly in their own country specific communities but I don’t get the sense that they’re as open and friendly to outside input or criticism as the Americans are.

  The way I see it, we’re all hooked onto the same stream of memes and billionaire owned news sources everywhere across the world. So thinking we’re immune to being overtaken by dangerous alt right nonsense and ignoring all the obvious signs would be a very stupid move, wherever you are. If they’re not taking this seriously, they’re doing exactly what the Americans did and have done since 2016.

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  • el_bhm@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I have no idea how this can be possible, but europeans are proud of their roots AND want their countries to be better. And there are defensive people AND people openly shitting on their countries.

    As if they see both sides of the coin. Or! OR it depends who you talk to!

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    • Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah that’s fair enough and I’m definitely generalizing. It’s just the general sum of my personal observations over the years. And it could easily be just seeing the wrong conversations in the wrong places or whatever. To be fair, you seem to hear about US issues a lot more than European issues on the net in general anyway.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Centrism is just seeing an elephant about to step on a mouse and trying to make a compromise.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just cause usa is fucked up completely doesn’t mean every other country is. left, centrist and right in most of europe would be categorized as “socialist terrorist group” in the usa.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Name a three countries that aren’t fucked.

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      • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The vatican city state, san marino, malta, Sealand

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• eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Centrists stand for the status quo, they would never change for the worse.”

  “What if the worse is the status quo and normalized with decades of propaganda and brainwashing?”

  “That could never happen!”

  Average centrist L.

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• djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  in fairness, Germany’s right-wing CSU/CDU could just as easily form a coalition with AFD. It is unique that they’re still willing to stand by their principles and work to cut AFD out of the government, going as far as threatening a ban. The American Republican Party jumped into bed with the fascist Tea Party immediately, without hesitation, and rode the Trump train.

  I still don’t expect the new centrist coalition to materially address the underlying economic concerns that are driving AFD support, and it seems likely that they’ll be too big to ignore by the next election. A future centrist L, if you were.

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• JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Third time’s a charm!

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• raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Whoever told you that was the one with the tiny brain. This is fucking scary and we have had warning signs for decades. /a German

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