I’m gonna bring this thread up the next time people throw a tantrum when I say Lemmy is sexist.
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Sniatch@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Reading the comments make me feel like I’m reading 4chan. How are people getting triggered by that post
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The problem with that is that the ones throwing those tantrums (or is the plural tantra???) are the same ones making the problem comments here.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Reddit is 4chan with account, .world is trying to be reddit 2.0 by it’s admins, not a shock.
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You don’t get it? I’m not upset by it, but it makes sense that others might.
What if instead of men it said Jewish people? Black men? Short Asian females? Brown folks? Seems a little more obvious why it would be problematic no?
It’s casting blame/shame on an incredibly large group for no particular reason (humor?). It’s just a dumb joke, but again, I get why some might be offended a bit.
Sniatch@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
If a white dude would say this, the prople getting triggered right now wouldn’t even care. The post wouldn’t even get that many upvotes. Most people are getting triggered because it’s a woman saying it.
_lunar@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
the way you describe men as men but women as females says everything i need to know about you and where you stand
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The irony of your.comment…
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s pretty crazy, like when people go ‘‘men who rape children should be in prison for life or capital punishment’’ I’ve never once in my life read that and thought ‘‘Oh no! How mean! You’re hurting my feelings, what if instead of ‘men’ you said ‘jews’ then you’d see how hateful and mean your statement is!’’
Are you a murderer, bro? No? Well maybe this ISN’T about you special boy feelings? Crazy I know.
It’s the same when people dicuss any form of racism, or the history of slavery in the US. What do you get? Self identifying white people loading up the comments with ‘‘I DIDN’T DO SLAVERY STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS!!!’’ or ‘‘You know what’s a totally unnecessary justification for chattel slavery in US history? Also African people did slavery. So. STOP HURTING MY SPECIAL WHITE FEELINGS!’’ or ‘‘You know that’s a lie that I use to justify my racist feelings towards anyone with darker skin than me? I can blame all the darks for the actions of individuals who are also darks, but don’t you dare talk to me about white men statistically being more likely to molest kids or commit arson or murder white women they are married to or dating or being more likely to abandon their children that’s FUCKING REVERSE RACISM! I’M THE VICTIM OF THE REAL RACISM NOT THOSE DARK SKIN PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL THE SAME AND EVIL!!’’
it’s fucking exhausting.
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I get that you’re really passionate about this topic. But the point seemed to have been missed. The parent post is blaming “men” and not “men who x”.
The most like-to-like comparison I can think of is “Family life is such a vibe… it’s a shame that women like to murder babies tho”. Does that help make it more obvious?
Zannsolo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m a man and I also think it sucks men like to murder, I’m also not even very likely to be the target of an attack unlike a woman and I feel this way.
Imo getting mad at this is incel behavior, it’s as if you think views like this are why you can’t get laid and not your terrible personality, disgusting habits, and shitty views towards women.
ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
It’s literally engagement bait gender wars bullshit. This conversation is fucking useless until you start asking WHY and none of them do, they just start throwing bullshit around about their own personal anecdotes or start screaming “NO THATS NOT TRUE” “YES IT IS”
It’s a useless never ending “debate”. Man vs. Bear should’ve taught us that. Mods should’ve locked the post or deleted it already IMO.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Enacting change is not the point of the post, it’s just a woman making a joke about the way she experiences life to others who may experience life in the same way. Men just got their feelings hurt and now, instead of trying to prove they’re not sexist, they’re in full denial about the rampant oppression women live every day.
ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Of course women experience oppression. I’m nonbinary and outwardly feminine and I get a fraction of that derision directed towards me as well. But because I won’t paint that as some inherent failing of people with XY chromosomes and point to social issues instead, gender essentialists get mad, and gender essentialists really engage with these posts.
KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
One of the mods posted this