Comment on Ubisoft announces studio closure as it lays off 185 staff

• mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s not Steam’s decision to make. The statement you’re referring to is just Steam clearly stating a decision made by the game publishers. Even if Steam didn’t highlight it, it would still exist, as you would see if you read the games’ license terms before paying.

  Ubisoft is a game publisher. They actually make the decision that you don’t own the games you pay for.

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s steam’s/valve’s decision for their own games, and they have the exact same policy.

    store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement

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    • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Practically all game publishers do. Sadly, it’s the industry standard.

      But the complaint was about Steam, not Valve.

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• Gork@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’ve never had Steam entirely revoke a game from my library that I paid for though.

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  • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It happens every few years when a publisher gets petty:

    • steamcommunity.com/groups/…/4157463936692986362
    • steamcommunity.com/groups/…/2495505669486891393
    • steamcommunity.com/groups/…/2239921952554905285
    • steamcommunity.com/groups/…/2736357490467304767

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    • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Mellow_Online1 Officer 20 Sep, 2017 @ 1:55pm Update: Valve has stepped in and keys have been reinstated, previous owners of the game should now have it in their library

      Seems like the developer was dumb and steam did everything right…?

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      • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yea, but the whole notion that Steam just lets developers do this, sometimes repeatedly…

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• jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I don’t get the downvotes. You’re right, everything you “own” in steam is through a license. People just don’t like to admit that we’re willing to let that one slide for convenience.

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Gamers are not always the most unfrozen pogos of the box.

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    • Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Or as I like to say, two buns short of a hamburger

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  • arudesalad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I may be misremembering but don’t some steam games have no drm? KSP1 and Ultrakill come to mind, are they still on a licence like games with drm?

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You are right - pcgamingwiki.com/…/The_Big_List_of_DRM-Free_Games….

      My main arguement though was that it’s not like your steam library is yours without restrictions. You’re agreeing to Steams terms and services and there are lots of ways they can prevent you from playing (most) games you “own”.

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  • 9bananas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    the downvotes are because it’s borderline misinformation:

    whether a game comes with DRM or not has nothing to do with steam, and everything to do woth the publisher.

    plenty of games on steam are completely DRM free!

    (…but the majority does have DRM, which, again, is on the publisher, not steam)

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Don’t bother reading the EULA for all commercial software then. You don’t actually own anything you purchase.

    Unless you have the code there is no freedom and it is all an illusion.

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s the point I and the person above were stating.

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I was pretty sure Steam was getting dunked on because you don’t actually own the games according to the contract. I was just pointing out this is also true of any commercial piece of software.

        For example, you go to GameStop and buy a physical copy of your favorite game. When you install it he EULA makes it clear you don’t actually own the product, just a license.

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