Also, Han had a ship and could lead a squadron.
Comment on In The Empire Strikes Back, why does Han significantly outrank Luke?
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Keep in mind, Han was promoted for the mission on Endor, so he wasn’t a general the . The rebellion kind of promoted people as needed (or just straight up willy-nilly, see Lando being given a rank of general or whatever.)
Also, like in rebels, they promoted a teenager to “lieutenant”…. Because he was a half-trained Jedi… (yeah that went well,)
gregorum@lemm.ee 1 year ago
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Shooting womprats in beggars canyon is experience!
Yeah. Training by the Carida naval academy, flushing out and lots and lots of smuggling experience…
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Endor was post-Empire.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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(this is the scene oblin99 is referring to, the morning after Han went out after Luke.) Han was a Captain at Hoth, and was outranked by Luke… who is a commander at the time.also, the Emperor died on the 2nd death star, which is when most worlds finally shrugged off imperial occupation. (see the celebration montage of them toppling the statues and stuffs); this is generally when people say that the empire was gone, even if it took a while to, ah, tidy up.
dezmd@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The Empire continued to exist organizationally just much smaller, and not that nonsense sequels bullshit evil macguffin splinter group form. The Empire remnant was called on in the EU against the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. The EU that is still canon because it was canon before it wasn’t.
magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The yuuzhan vong will never be canon for me.
oblin99@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When Rogue Squadron is using the com links and looking for them after they camped out for the night, doesn’t Rogue 2 refer to both as Captain though?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Looks like we were both wrong. Luke is a Commander and Han is a Captain in Empire and this article basically answers my question, so should I delete the thread?
Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That is a good read but I’m going to muddy the waters a bit.
I’ll start off with saying I understand this is fiction and doesn’t necessarily directly fit into real life.
In the US military the ranks Captain, Commander, and General don’t exist in the same rank structure. Captain and General exist in every structure except the Navy and Coast Guard which have Commander and Captain. In the former, Captain is an O3 and General could be an O7 through O10. In the latter a Commander is an O5 and and Captain is an O6.
So at the end of ANH Luke as either an O3 or O6 and in RotJ he had separated. Han in ANH was and O5 and later jumped structures and was an O7.
xeekei@lemm.ee 1 year ago
No.
“Captain Solo. Do you copy?” “Commander Skywalker. This is Rogue 2.”
So, Han is a Captain and Luke is a Commander in ESB. Tho, I don’t know why Han gets a promotion to General when he’s just been frozen in carbonite between films.
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The years you don’t do any fuckups count double
wjrii@kbin.social 1 year ago
Han was promoted for the mission on Endor.
This. It says a lot about the personnel available to the Alliance and the optics, namely the importance they placed on the ground mission, and the fact that they needed to set expectations for how Han would be treated by his new troops.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 year ago
I think it is more that Han Solo became general after ESB, not that he became one for Endor.
Even though Solo is captured, he does cause Cloud City to flip to the rebels, giving Han an army and navy. At the time, generals were both military leads and the people who were able to mobilize a fighting force. Even if Lando is kept as a high ranking officer, that would be enough to make Solo a general.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
ESB ends with Han encased in carbonate and loaded onto fett’s ship,
RotJ starts with the gang rescuing him. ESB, he was “Captain Solo”, he spent the intervening time frozen in a block of space-slag, so he had to have been given that promotion for that mission.
roguetrick@kbin.social 1 year ago
Making a force sensitive a junior officer seems to be the standard.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Luke, after almost banging his sister: “Damn! This close to a promotion!”
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Chewie, realizing he never got that kiss: “RAWRRlRLrlrlrlrlrRLrlrlrLRRLlrRl.”
ChewbaccasClitoris@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Poor guy
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree, ChewbaccasClitoris
nitefox@sh.itjust.works [bot] 1 year ago
“You are in your sister… but we do not grant you the rank of general”