I always saw it as musicians without formal education just want people to know that also works. And it’s OK to be proud of that. I don’t follow all the musicians and know their thoughts, but I can’t recall any vh1 behind the musics where an artist claimed music theory takes away from music. Recall a couple saying both is often the best. Neil Pert, iirc was a real interesting story with regards to that.
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_____@lemm.ee 5 days ago
you are all not going to like my take on JP music
Western music has a history of taking pride in lack of music education, obviously with rock gods trying to convince their audience that “they don’t know what chords are” and such.
Obviously when compared to a society that prides itself on education and “trying” at hobbies (otaku), then you get to see some insane 6D jazz chords and solos from outer space
Biggest lie Western musicians have sold to their audience is the music theory will “take away” something from their music/originality
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
expr@programming.dev 5 days ago
So you’re just gonna sit there and ignore the vast history and tradition of Jazz, classical, and music education in the west, huh? Neat.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Oh, brother. Only thing I don’t like about your take is that you obviously have no clue of the history of western music in general and still decided to voice an opinion about it.
__Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
What part of this do you think people will not like? It sounds like you are praising Japanese musicians and criticizing Western ones. Your criticism of Western music seems pretty off though, the only musicians that match your description are punk bands.
_____@lemm.ee 5 days ago
there are many world class western musicians so people reading my criticism will probably think in targeting western music as whole.
it’s just this weird subculture in western music that I don’t like and it shows through their live performances the most. fou only hear “wow it sounds just like the album” when western groups are playing
WamGams@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
The weird subculture you are referring to is pop music directed at teenage girls, generally written by 20 year old boys.
It’s not representative of Western music.
seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
Maybe this is true in acoustic music but not at all in electronic music
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I mean, when your major genres are built on a foundation of music made by folks who often didn’t have access to formal musical education, I kinda get it.
As an Elecki enjoyer I do see your point, though.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
don’t lump all of the West in with America. I play four instruments well and pretty much any instrument badly because I got lessons in school and could do both music performance and production in my last two years at school, I performed jazz, church and pop music regularly throughout my childhood and it didn’t feel unusual or privileged. We sang and played instruments every single day in primary school.
Also my English and History teachers would sometimes play us music that related to what we were studying in secondary school.
Phineaz@feddit.org 5 days ago
Your take on Japanese music is fine. Your take on “western” (whatever that means) music is hot garbage, however.