FishFace
@FishFace@lemmy.world
- Comment on Will UK taxpayers get their £122m back from PPE Medpro? 2 hours ago:
I think in this high profile, high stakes case there might be enough reason to pursue a criminal case.
I don’t think it should be possible to just lock people up without proving fraud or criminal negligence to a proper standard, which is what makes it difficult and costly.
- Comment on What time is it? 5 hours ago:
With hand drawn codes it’s also that the scanners are very good. It’s no good having high redundancy if the scanner can’t transform the 3D code to a square and find the timing bits etc
- Comment on It's already too late 5 hours ago:
Which lips does equeef want us to moisten?
- Comment on Will UK taxpayers get their £122m back from PPE Medpro? 6 hours ago:
Well no, it probably wouldn’t, that’s the point. Proving fraud is expensive, and bankruptcy otherwise prevents retrieving full amounts.
- Comment on Boris Johnson breached rules designed to stop abuse of contacts made in public office, watchdog finds 6 hours ago:
It may get better now… Here’s hoping
- Comment on Discord says hackers stole government IDs of 70,000 users 15 hours ago:
More like the opposite
- Comment on This is real 2 days ago:
Idk, for me fundamentally treating others as you’d like to be treated is about the social contract of tolerance - which is about not bothering anyone for their innate characteristics, to me if you follow the line of thought then “bother” can be defined as disruption and interference on top of outright obvious discrimination, and that includes emitting uncontrolled amounts of disruptive smells on unconsenting unsuspecting others.
It sounds like you are not, in fact, constructing “don’t be horrible to people” as an imperative following from privacy, after all. Privacy is fundamentally about ensuring that other people cannot know what I’m doing, even if they want to. What we are talking about is ensuring that other people do not sense what I am doing because they may not want to. A violation of the former case harms me, but a violation of the latter case harms them. You’re right to pick up on the consent of the stranger looking over my shoulder; the consent of the person sensing the impact is irrelevant in the case of privacy, but it is everything in the case of “don’t bother other people.” So let’s come back to your analogy:
Why do you want random strangers to know what you ate? Hence the analogy, it’s the same question as why would you want others to know what you’re watching by blasting video on speaker on the bus?
I don’t care if random strangers know what I ate. And as a privacy matter, that’s the end of it. Privacy concerns don’t exist if the person whose information it is consents to its release. I may care if they know what I’m listening to, because I think they’d be more likely to judge me for what I’m listening to. But if I agree to them finding that out, it’s not a privacy concern at all. To extend the privacy argument: what business is it of yours why I want other people to know what I’m listening to? That’s not what you’re really concerned by. Really, you’re concerned with me annoying random strangers. And my consent to annoying strangers is irrelevant; it’s them who are being annoyed, they who must consent.
The reason I interpret what you’re saying as discriminatory is because, as I already referred to, there are situations where it is not practical to keep your cooking smells hermetically sealed inside your own dwelling. Steaming up the windows is not a matter of how much garlic you’re cooking, but how much water vapour is getting emitted from what you’re cooking and how well ventilated the kitchen is - and any ventilation to let the humid air out lets out the smell of what you’re cooking as well.
I don’t disagree that there is a general principle that we shouldn’t cause other people to smell stuff, but this principle is incompatible with other principles, such as keeping a comfortable level of humidity and eating where it’s convenient (such as in public). The principle of don’t-make-people-smell-stuff should rightly be considered to be very far down the list of principles’ priorities when deciding which principle wins out, because causing someone to smell garlic is just not a big deal. It’s not a foul smell (like fart gas) so it doesn’t cause a big impact. In contrast, having to bottle up humid cooking air inside your home makes it uncomfortable and is a bigger impact. All of these principles should also be tempered by a fundamental societal determination of how reasonable activities are: cooking is something that basically everyone does, and garlic is an ingredient that basically everyone uses. In contrast, running a home chemistry set and synthesising fart gas is not something that basically everyone does; you could pick a different chemical to synthesise and get a similar enjoyment or, if you really want to synthesise fart gas, you can jump through some hoops to make sure the smell doesn’t escape.
So let’s stack it up:
- cooking with pungent ingredients like garlic is normal, reasonable, everyday activity
- it’s not practical or comfortable to keep the smell inside
- the impact on others is minimal or even positive (the only response I have to smelling garlic wafting from someone’s kitchen window is “mmm, garlic” and, to your point about that, I have smelt garlic from kitchens in the UK.)
Looking to restrict the release of cooking smells is therefore unreasonable. Doing so on the basis of “asian food is smelly” is therefore an unreasonable restriction that most severely impacts Asian people, which is discriminatory.
My illustration about my own experience is not supposed to be an exact allegory for the situation we’re talking about but it is supposed to illustrate that generally people are far more receptive to culinary multiculturalism than you seem to be.
What if we stack up playing music from phone speakers:
- playing music (somehow) is normal, reasonable, everyday activity
- it is practical to keep the noise to yourself, and (with the right headphones) is comfortable
- the impact on others is difficult to rank. It can still be positive (if someone else likes whatever you’re playing) but there are number of factors making it unlikely: phone speakers sound awful, especially from some distance away; other people are likely trying to listen to something else like a conversation or trying to concentrate and may have no way of blocking the sound out themselves. Public transport normally smells bad by default but I have no trouble having a conversation or concentrating on something.
So I think it’s a useful comparison and illustrates how the two activities should have different expectations.
This is a bioessentialist broad generalisation that doesn’t hold true when you consider how many people hate places that have many people.
It could well be, but we’re talking principles here like, “you should be invisible to your neighbours.” If your principle is contradicted by a broadly true generalisation that we’re social creatures, then it’s a bad principle and you should get rid of it. And consider that maybe it’s not a general principle, but rather your own preference not to talk to interact.
I don’t make assumptions of bad faith about random internet strangers and I’d appreciate it if you did the same
I assumed bad faith because I have never heard anyone calling garlic a “weird” ingredient before and still don’t believe you think that. And I’m not trying to “diagnose you with mental illness”; I asked if you’re autistic because it would give some useful context to your perspective for both of us. I’m not going to tell you that you are if you don’t believe yourself to be.
Isn’t unseasoned grains boiled in water more of an asia thing, like rice?
It’s universal. Rice, yes, but also noodles, pasta, various kinds of dumpling like Grießknödel, and semolina pudding. The list goes on.
- Comment on Worse than stubbing your toe 2 days ago:
Hey, she looks like she’s having a Good Time! That’s nice!
- Comment on This is real 2 days ago:
something unusually super stinky and weird like garlic containing foods
lol enjoy your unseasoned boiled wheat, troll
Brits are using on average 250 cloves of garlic per year. If you genuinely think it’s weird and are not making a weird troll attempt here, I’m afraid you’re the weird one. I guess that’s weird either way.
Yeah, so when asian food in the west is imposed upon westerners and other immigrants who are happy to integrate with western culture by immigrants who are not, it’s a-okay, but me asking for reasonable adjustments is “oppression”?
Demanding that everyone who comes to your country either stops cooking the food they grew up eating or keeps it a secret is not reasonable, and is oppressive. When I lived in a foreign country, I didn’t stop cooking my home country’s food; indeed, I shared it with my new friends in that country and we all enjoyed the experience. (No doubt this violation of my own privacy is strange to you…)
most asian takeaway is consumed by right-wing voters.
Most people in the UK are right wing by voting intention. What’s your point with this?
Then we can never understand each other. If you lack the fundamental desire for privacy, from which a “treat others as you’d like to be treated” idea easily follows
Those two things are completely unconnected. Treat others as you’d like to be treated is a moral fundamental; it does not follow from a desire for privacy. A desire for privacy follows from a selfish (but entirely legitimate) desire not to suffer consequences for personal choices that don’t affect others.
I don’t want to be punched in the face, so I don’t punch other people in the face. But there are no privacy implications of being punched in the face.
If someone looks over my shoulder at what’s on my phone and sees I’m listening to Abba, that’s an intrusion into my privacy, but the person hasn’t suffered anything that I wouldn’t wish on myself.
So as I said, these are completely separate, unrelated concepts.
To me the absolute most basic point of a social contract is that you must in all ways possible minimize your presence, an ideal towards which you must strive is your neighbours not even knowing you exist, just as I do not want to know if they exist.
This is extremely far from normal. We’re social creatures.
I’m wondering if you’re autistic - it would explain an aversion to strong sensory experiences like smelling garlic, and to social interactions that are normal to most others.
- Comment on This is real 2 days ago:
“asian food” covers billions of people from hundreds of cultures across dozens of countries. I am not convinced that reducing to it in this way is especially productive.
Some ingredients do carry more than others, but like… garlic is one of them. Or bacon. No-one should feel like they need to take special measures to prevent people from smelling perfectly ordinary food, because to do so is an unreasonable imposition on day-to-day activities. Why should I have to keep my steamed-up windows closed so that someone walking by can be protected from the scourge of cumin?
There are super-stinky foods that this doesn’t apply to, recognised even in the cultures which consume them as especially smelly and warranting special treatment, but “asian food” is way too broad to be that. And when it’s imposed by one culture on another it starts to sound discriminatory to me.
Do they not feel a bit weird broadcasting what they’re eating to the entire neighborhood?
No.
It’s kinda like those crazies that play videos on speaker on transport. It never even crossed my mind since childhood to use headphones to not disrupt others - the primary motivation was always that randoms have no business knowing what I listen to.
That’s weird. It’s definitely more important not to disturb people with what you’re listening to. It’s also much easier to keep the volume down with earphones than it is to keep smells confined, and much more disruptive - I never found it difficult to sleep or hold a conversation or concentrate because I could smell soy sauce.
- Comment on This is real 2 days ago:
I’m sure your food stinks to people who aren’t used to it. Why do you get to pass judgement on what’s appropriate there? I’m not Asian and the only issue I have with it is that it makes me hungry.
- Comment on This is real 2 days ago:
dogshit, weed and asian food
one of these is not like the other…
- Comment on Lifetime of earnings not enough for UK workers to join wealthiest 10%, report says 3 days ago:
Under what circumstances would we expect that to happen?
- Comment on Good boah 4 days ago:
Sir, this is lemmyshitpost
- Comment on PSA: Stop using Imgur for now 5 days ago:
Until this I used it as my daily meme scroller
- Comment on PSA: Stop using Imgur for now 5 days ago:
Well done for not reading the post
- Comment on PSA: Stop using Imgur for now 5 days ago:
It’s not accessible with a pc either.
- Comment on PSA: Stop using Imgur for now 5 days ago:
Probably not directly, but we don’t know because Imgur has unprofessionally decided to return an incorrect raw JSON error message instead of explaining the block.
There is a message from the ICO noting the block and that it was considering fining them for failing to take user reported age as part of account creation. This is different from the OSA age verification
- Comment on Cops have now arrested over 2,000 peaceful Defend Our Juries protesters 5 days ago:
Because the government feels threatened by direct action protest. News footage of vandalised jets is very embarrassing.
The huge sympathy for Jews and consequently for Israel does not switch off the moment Israel bombed the first hospital two years ago, in a conflict which has seen many innocents killed over many decades.
- Comment on How Do The Normal People Survive? 6 days ago:
That is not a point you have made. You just started talking about those things. You didn’t relate them to the post in any way
- Comment on How Do The Normal People Survive? 6 days ago:
How do people who know how to repair gadgets and laser cut foam deal with things that lie outside their areas of expertise? Car trouble, plumbing problems, heating broken? No-one is able to do all of these, because each requires a certain amount of time and financial investment to get to the point of being able to fix most problems.
When you can’t fix it yourself you find someone who can. This may involve paying them to fix it. Fixing it may mean just buying a new one.
- Comment on How Do The Normal People Survive? 6 days ago:
What the fuck are you talking about?
This isn’t about AI, or Palestine, or healthcare.
- Comment on How We're Redesigning Audacity For The Future 6 days ago:
Qt4, right? :P
- Comment on Discord customer service data breach leaks user info and scanned photo IDs 1 week ago:
If it were about “surveillance capitalism” then we wouldn’t be hearing about this as unauthorised breaches.
It is enough that the people who demand these systems are ignorant.
- Comment on How We're Redesigning Audacity For The Future 1 week ago:
Without spoiling the fun by watching the video I’m guessing they’re going to update it to use gtk3 and pulseaudio!
- Comment on ugh I hate these notifications 1 week ago:
I hate that it bypasses your system volume setting and blasts it at 10,000 decibels
- Comment on I'm gonna die on this hill or die trying 1 week ago:
HTML rendering collapses whitespace; it has nothing to do with accessibility. I would like to see the research on double-spacing causing rivers, because I’ve only ever noticed them in justified text where I would expect the renderer to be inserting extra space after a full stop compared between words within sentence anyway.
I’ve seen a lot of dubious legibility claims when it comes to typography including:
- serif is more legible
- sans-serif is more legible
- comic sans is more legible for people with dyslexia
and so on.
- Comment on Has this ever happened to you? 1 week ago:
Obviously not for the person who replied to you, nor for many others
- Comment on Kemi Badenoch pledges to scrap UK climate law 1 week ago:
Thing is I read recently that the thing people like the least about Farage is his ties to the fossil fuel industry, so this seems a strategically poor thing to copy.
- Comment on Imgur blocks UK users after regulator threatens fine over child data use 1 week ago:
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have both. Alcohol and tobacco should not be freely available to children while relying instead on “conversation”.
UK law already allows blocking websites; the technical means is there. So I don’t know what you think the increased risk of censorship down the line actually is.