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• Yew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We haven’t had an election since it started.

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• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wait til you figure out where Iran got their nuclear capabilities from in the first place.

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  • Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wasn’t it Pakistan? The same way NK got it?

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Iran’s nuclear program began under Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in the 1950s as part of the U.S. Atoms for Peace initiative.

      We did it.

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• slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Only the ones drinking the red hat koolaid.

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• cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you’re talking about the truck drivers, they were just never aware of it. Global politics aren’t their concern. Getting brown people out of the pool of possible competitors was, and they voted accordingly. Papa Trump told them that Iranians are brown and therefore have to go, and they backed him. They’re also Muslim, so, you know, guilt by association for 9/11, at least in the minds of the uneducated masses. To be fair, these people also believed the president they voted for when he said he could beat Iran in a few weeks. They thought Trump would control all the oil by then and sell it to them cheap. They thought they were his people because they waved the same flag and carried guns. But they got to keep a brown woman from becoming president, so they still consider that a net win… even with diesel having nearly tripled in price. It’s like that quote by former US president Johnson about giving white Americans a brown or Black man to look down upon. And they’ll vote all the way down the Republican ticket in November, too. Because, they will tell you, eventually that cheque will come in. (And they still believe they’ll get the $1776 for the America 250, the $2000 DOGE cheque, the $3000 tariffs cheque… and they believe the Trump phone was made in America…)

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  • cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Global politics aren’t their concern. Getting brown people out of the pool of possible competitors was, and they voted accordingly.

    I want to shout this from the rooftops every time someone says “white conservatives vote against their own interests.”

    No they don’t, you just don’t understand what their interests are. Their interests are cultural superiority, namely white conservative Christian culture. That’s what they vote for.

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    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s not quite what people mean when they say that, at least not what I mean when I talk about this concept.

      Having a favored position (i.e. having the dominant culture being white conservative christian culture) is what buys the obedience of these individuals within capitalism.

      They are still voting against their interests (protecting capitalism) and more importantly are rejecting class consciousness, with the promise that they will be treated better than the out groups.

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• Fishnoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Trump started it illegally. He should have already been executed by now. November is when we can vote in people who will do just that

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  • darctones@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If gas drops below $4/gal by Nov, they’re filling in the maga circles. Trump is the symptom not the cause.

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• wiLD0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t think you can homogenize Americans.

  Some never voted for Trump.

  Some others did but are will be voting for ‘the other side’ because of inflation.

  And some others think the US is doing just fine in the war and see higher gas prices as part of the ‘good fight’.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think you can homogenize Americans.

    Yes you can, USA is a country, and the government is acting on behalf of the whole population.
    That is not about individuals that may disagree on all sorts of things, but the country as a whole, and what their administration, government and lawmakers are doing.

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• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What do you mean by “started”? When we overthrew their government? Or used Iraq against Iran in a proxy war? Or the Trump invasion that isn’t a war but is instead a police action for world peace ordained by God in a Holy Crusade?

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  • TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What was that last one?

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• Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Whenever I can’t figure out why the USA is doing violence somewhere far away from home, the answer is usually manifest destiny. It didn’t end on the continent.

  If you believe that that it is god’s will that you assert your will, it’s easy to blame the enemy for not just handing over what you want from them.

  (Imperialism isn’t unique to the USA, but I think their history allows the government to face less opposition then they might face in other countries. Even if it’s just getting mad it’s not a polite person dropping the bombs.

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