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In what medium be it print music movies or other was the first villain monologue delivered? What was it about?

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Submitted ⁨⁨59⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    It was almost certainly spoken around a fire in a cave and has been lost to time before humans really recorded history

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    • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Cave fire speech is not a medium in the strict sense, though.
      That means at least writing would have to have been available.
      Gilgamesh epic might be a good candidate, I think.

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      • adam_y@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Spoken word is indeed a medium in the strict sense.

        The Celt tradition being a prime candidate for that sort of thing (if you are interested in an attempt to consolidate the Irish oral tradition I highly recommend George Green’s “Hound”).

        Gilgamesh might be a good candidate for the first probable one though, as the oral tradition is almost impossible to prove.

        Alongside that I’d argue certain bits of the old testament feel like villainous monologues.

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨20⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    The oldest in English that we have access to might be in Beowulf? Villain monologues are as old as stories, and stories are as old as humanity.

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  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Richard III starts with a villain monolog.

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  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Isn’t there several in the old testament?

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