We are living fewer years in good health: Is the NHS part of the problem?

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  uhg. more starve the beast nonsense..

  step 1, defund program
  step 2, point out how terrible program is and that clearly it needs to be privatized
  step 3, program is canceled. for-profit incentive costs for services far exceed successful public costs

  god forbid they just actually pay for services and medical personnel. maybe if we all werent collectively spending 50% of GDP on the planet on killing each other we could afford to healthcare each other.

  assholes.

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  • mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s such a stupid framing. If the NHS is responsible for fewer years in good health now, then it was equally responsible for more years in good health 15 years ago.

    So we should ask what has changed in the NHS to make the outcomes worse? Austerity and creeping privatisation, for a start.

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lemmy is certainly quieter than other social media, but it’s nice how much more common sane opinions are.

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  • gnutrino@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    maybe if we all werent collectively spending 50% of GDP on the planet on killing each other we

    Eh? Global military spending is 2.5% of GDP (Source)

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    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fossil fuel subsidies?

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I said this before but make it super easy and affordable to live healthy lives. Subsidise the crap out of well built community gyms that are within reach for all ages. They exist but are very expensive. Subsidise the crap out of healthy foods that are easy to prepare like access to fruit and vegetables.

  It baffles me that people live their lives smoking, vaping, getting smashed, and eating kebabs and then end up with lung cancer / obesity that the NHS needs to find funds to look after. I’m not saying we should outlaw these things, who doesn’t like a cheeky kebab? But we’re rapidly turning into the US and expecting the NHS to just pick up the problems.

  If you viewed the national health as preventative rather than reactionary these things would already be in place.

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It baffles me that people live their lives smoking, vaping, getting smashed, and eating kebabs

    It does? If I read enough headlines in a single, I feel like I’d love to get smashed into a fine powder, or vaporized, or turn myself into a kebab.

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  • danielquinn@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I agree 100% but would point out that simply having healthier options available at reasonable prices is only half the solution. The other half is time. With much of the working class working 9-10hr days and commuting for an additional 2hrs, that doesn’t leave a lot of time for the gym or cooking healthy meals. …and that’s for those lucky enough to be working only one job.

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  • Wiredfire@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agreed. But also make actually healthy food accessible, available, and affordable. It is SO expensive to eat a diet that isn’t trying to give me cancer or a host of other health issues. Being able to eat well should be a basic access right, not a privilege of the well-off.

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• BrightCandle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Covid infections and a Long Covid are a big part of the problem now, that is manifesting in an enormous list of problems and newly disabled people. Its causing so many different chronic conditions that science is beginning to wonder if viral infections are the cause of almost everything. Its one disease that the NHS refuses to even diagnose correctly and certainly doesn’t treat after it shut down all the Long Covid clinics. 4 million new chronic health sufferers that know they have Long Covid from the GP patient survery and a further 6 million that aren’t sure.

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