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i feel bad for someone who describes someone in a mentally compromised state as 'too self absorbed'
as if the whole engine wasnt broken and they just need to do this
fucking amatuer hour
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Submitted 2 hours ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 hours ago
Patnou@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Well most people say they only care about themselves and are being selffish and never consider how it would effect the people around them.
kindnesskills@literature.cafe 43 minutes ago
I would like to know who all these “most people” are and what experience they speak from. In my experience as a former frequent flyer in the female psych ward, most suicidal people I’ve met do care a lot about other people, but their depression makes them convinced that killing themselves would have no or even positive impact on their loved ones in the long run.
Speaking from experience, it can honestly feel like suicide would be a kindness, like your pain is so big you’re certain it affects everyone around you and your mere existence (and your mental unhealth) is a burden. When that is your minds truth, taking yourself out would relieve others from your pain, and even though it’s frightening (and maybe the short period surrounding your death would be hard on them but not as hard as living with you), it’s the right thing to do for the sake of your loved ones.
Obviously it’s bullshit to a healthy mind, but depression is such a mind-altering disorder that you can’t distinct between reasonable and affected thoughts. I can barely grasp how it felt and what I believed to be true, now that I’m better.
And to answer your original question: most other the time when I didn’t attempt suicide it was because my plan of action would lead to a horrific mess for whoever found me/had to clean it up, or because there was a risk someone I knew would be the one to find me, or risk of someone witnessing/causing my death which would be traumatic for even a stranger.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 53 minutes ago
Why don’t people ever think about how they were too selfish to help their struggling loved one?
Nah, it’s just blame the dead person who couldn’t find any value in life for the stain in the new carpet.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 hour ago
i would struggle to use the words 'most people' in such a context.. i doubt you have more than anecdotal evidence.
Asafum@lemmy.world 49 minutes ago
Couldn’t speak for those who already passed, but I’ve always planned to go deep into the woods somewhere so people won’t have to find me or clean anything up.
I don’t know about self absorbed, I guess you could say to the extent that they aren’t considering what others will have to deal with, but they hate themselves so much, hate their life so much, and have no hope for the future that they just want it to be over.
I’m by no means special, so I’d like to think they’d be similar to me, but I’m at least waiting for my older family to pass before I take my hike so I limit my impact as much as possible.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Actually it’s pretty common, although more common in women. It’s part of why in spite of technically attempting suicide more, women actually die less; because they’re trying to come up with methods that don’t leave much mess and end up just permanently maimed or disabled. Men are far more likely to just paint a wall with the insides of their skull or go base-jumping without a shute and that’s pretty hard to screw up or come back from.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
This is a rather tactless question but there is a way of asking it without the ignorant, blanket insults against those who are struggling.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 38 minutes ago
All of OPs talk about being “self absorbed” and “not caring about how they affect others” really sounds like projection to me.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 22 minutes ago
It is. He doesn’t care how ignorant he is.
His little “this account is shared by three people” act is just so he can say “it wasn’t me” when he gets called out.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
It sounds like your specifically talking about the type of mess that needs soap and water to clean.
If somebody has died, especially by their own hand, I don’t think anyone should really be thinking about that kind of mess at all.
velma@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
If somebody has died, especially by their own hand, I don’t think anyone should really be thinking about that kind of mess at all.
Except for those, like their loved ones, who find their body. The question as posed is rough, but I think I understand OP’s point.
My ex-husband’s grandfather went out this way. He found out he had terminal cancer, didn’t tell anyone, and blew his brains out in the family bathroom. His wife found him. It was traumatizing.
I’m unsure what he may have thought about before doing it or if someone finding his body ever occurred to him though.
Patnou@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
That’s probably why those cleaning companies who come in after a messy crime scene and clean up make so much money.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 16 minutes ago
Which grade are you in?
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 1 hour ago
Usually the person doing it is in so much mental pain and anguish that all they can think of is getting the pain to stop.
It’s really hard to commit suicide. You really have to be in a bad spot to do it.
Having said all that, yes some do it to leave a mess, some do it to punish others. Can’t say I’ve ever meet people like that but i know they exist. The people I’ve interacted with mostly just want the bad things to stop.
PS: No, I’m not a therapist, just someone who’s life journey went to a dark place, but managed to survive it without pulling the trigger.
Today@lemmy.world 42 minutes ago
My friend’s dad took his life recently with a gun. While there was a mess, that required a cleaning crew, the family appreciated that he had taken steps to minimize that.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Can’t say, I’m sure some do. There’s definitely clean and peaceful methods. I would say, if you’re really gonna exit may as well max out as many credit cards and loans as humanly possible and have a wild time and pick some sort of exciting or crazy way to go out, like skydiving without a shute.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 32 minutes ago
You’re an asshole. Fuck you.