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If a virtual particle dips or blips out of existence then where do they go? Do they come back at a different point showing movement when the blip occurs? Are they some how different when returning?

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Virtual particles appear and disappear as part of the interactions between real particles. The general phenomenon of particles appearing and disappearing in interactions happens with both real and virtual particles; the interactions are such that momentum, charge, etc. are conserved. So the things you should expect to see persisting in existence aren’t particles, but those conserved properties.

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    • bookmeat@fedinsfw.app ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But where are they coming from and going to if matter and energy cannot be destroyed? Appear and disappear just means they merely become detectable/detected?

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      • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Think of particles as bundles of conserved quantities like charge, energy, mass, etc. In interactions, these quantities can be re-bundled into different particles—but the re-bundling isn’t creating or destroying the conserved quantities themselves.

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      • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        But where are they coming from and going to if matter and energy cannot be destroyed?

        From nothing. No new energy is created because virtual particles are always created in a way that does not disturb the total energy of the universe. For example, one positive particle and one negative particle. It can’t be any other way.

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  • notsosure@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The interactions between real particles involve the appearance and disappearance of virtual particles. In these processes, both real and virtual particles can emerge and vanish, yet the interactions always ensure that properties like momentum and charge remain conserved. Therefore, what you should expect to persist are not the particles themselves, but the conserved properties that define them.

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  • merc@nord.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Virtual particles are still only theoretical. I think of them as a mental model of mathematical objects that arise when we try to calculate interactions between real particles.

    I know there are some experiments like casimir effect that are attributed to virtual particles. But, it is possible to explain it in other ways.

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  • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They don’t blip out of existence indepedently, they always annihilate each other. If you have a pair of positive and negative virtual particles, they will come into existence, exist separately for some time, possibly interacting with other, real particles, but in the end there will be some annihilation which ends the interaction and maintains the energy of the universe (no energy is created or destroyed).

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    • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Well except when one is near the event horizon of a blackhole, in that case they can in theory survive: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

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      • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Apart form that, yes

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They are basically an energy credit. They don’t go anywhere. They don’t “come back” in any way.

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    • Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      what about Quantum?

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      • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Do you mean their quanta? That’s what’s being preserved.

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