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Not to get political however How did J Epstein die? Usually suicide watch they put you in a specialized suit so it's impossible. So given if they did that like law says how did he commit suicide?

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Submitted ⁨⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He didn’t, he was murdered.

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  • Paragone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Strangled with a cord.

    the photo of his corpse shows the marks on his neck from that cord.

    The cloth he “supposedly” was strangled-with wouldn’t have put those marks on his neck.

    There’s a yt mortician who identified this stuff.

    & the fact that suicides tend to have 0 or 1 vertebra broken, but Epstein had 3 broken…

    & the security-video which wasn’t supposed to have any record of the guy in orange who went into that area, but did ( somebody whose job was to prevent evidence … fucked up )

    & the authorities make baldfaced “that isn’t significant” … when it fucking obviously was significant … decisions…

    & on & on & on…

    There’s a former mafia man, Michael Firenzese, who’s got multiple Epstein videos, & 1 of those has on its thumbnail a marionette style image, so large dark hand above, & … 2, iirc, marionettes, with Epstein being 1 of 'em…

    That video identifies enough evidence that now I understand why he was able to get away with the absurd degree of impunity he had…

    CIA, Mossad, AND KGB seem to have been working with him.

    When the FBI wanted him put away, they were ordered to back off, being informed he was an intelligence asset…

    So, then the question of who was using who? comes up…

    He was using the intelligence-agencies to gain power/influence, he was getting kompromat/blackmail on everybody, he was sharing that, for a price of some kind, with multiple agencies, selectively, they were using him, NOBODY is being made accountable for raping girls, he apparently murdered multiple girls, some buried “out back” he said, & he bought 330t of sulfuric-acid … probably for eradicating other inconvenient evidence, & Maxwell ( or somebody whose perspective is identical to hers ) murdered a girl to prove herself to her “husband” … there reaches a point where there’s no point in pretending that this is in any way, whatsoever sane.

    1 guy who was talking about having met him said the hair on the back of his neck was standing on end, & he knew this guy was evil.

    I’d believed that I’d had that kind of sense ( have evidence of having got that kind of judgement right, in the past ), but … whatever darkness-sense I’ve got didn’t work with Epstein, in that video Bannon made of him…

    The repeated asking by Bannon “do you believe you are the devil” or something like that … & his careful non-response … he may have so believed, tbh…

    Anyways, more info than you asked, but the whole thing has evidence scattered everywhere, & the key items need to be consolidated, properly, so people can see & understand, for real…

    Years ago, there was the Iran-Contra affair… a guy who dug into that told me the more he knew, the less he could figure-out who the “good guys” were supposed to be…

    This is the same, only more so.

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  • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It wasn’t on camera and no one was there apparently so the truest answer is, we don’t know.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He was also within range of a camera that wasn’t working, and was to be checked on every half hour.

    How did he commit suicide indeed.

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Committing suicide in jail is common. Not as common as guards who neglect the welfare of their prisoners, but still pretty common.

    The Epstein conspiracy theory has people out here arguing that incompetent prison staff doing medical neglect is suspicious.

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    • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s on top of all but one of the cameras just happening to be out that night, and the last one just happening to have a nightly outage at the same time as Epstein died, and the prison staff not just neglecting him but literally falling asleep when he had already tried to kill himself and was on suicide watch.

      Too many coincidences.

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  • aaa999@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the answer that involves the least amount of conspiracies is that a guy accustomed to partying as hard as physically possible as a coping mechanism 100% of the time looked at his future (life in prison, no coping mechanisms available) and just took the only exit, and he was able to do this because fancy expensive prison for rich people halfassed procedure to make the fancy rich prisoners comfy

    an answer that involves slightly more conspiracies is above, but someone else made some phone calls to arrange for the conditions that allowed him to do it unnoticed, to stop him from testifying (0 evidence of this)

    “oh but actually John Hitman tunneled in through the airvents and strangled him” no, stupid, stop, bad

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  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    given if they did that

    You have some weird thoughts indeed.

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