Council removes almost 1,000 flags from Derby streets

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• Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They put these flags up like this for the same reason Mormons and Jehovas go knocking on doors. It’s not to spread the word or convert anyone, it’s to reinforce the “us vs them” mentality that locks people into relying on their group and distrusting and rejecting others.

  They (the people who’s idea it was to start doing this) know that the flags are going to get removed from lamp posts, telegraph poles, road signs etc but they get people to put them up and say “look how much everyone hates us” and then all they talk about is how you can’t show the flag anymore because of woke, when most council buildings already fly the union flag and on private property you can fly whatever you want (generally).

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  • MrNesser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s an attempt to normalise a view that is inherently racist so by the next election it’s going to be more acceptable to act like that.

    Pure fucking evil

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• Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Some of these flag shaggers did the same up here in Scotland but with the St Andrews flag. Unfortunately for them, that flag is associated with the independence movement, not racism, so they haven’t managed to portray the message they’re after.

  Most councils responded with “we’re not going to explicitly go out to take them down but they’ll be removed during routine maintenance”. So now, instead of a racist dog whistle we have free independence decorations!

  Useful idiots.

  Also, these dumb fucks wouldn’t know patriotism if it shat in their mouth. Patriotism is helping your neighbour, your community, your country. Improving living conditions in this country, making life worth living here. Not being angry at foreigners and putting up a piece of cloth. If they genuinely cared they’d read a fucking book and learn how to make this country better, but they just want to be angry and validated for it. Pricks.

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  • hellothere@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nationalism is still nationalism.

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    • Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you have no understanding of politics, nuance, or history, then yeah, sure, nationalism is still nationalism.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m not at all against seeing our flags flown. There’s nothing wrong with it, and in fact I think it’s bizarre some people actually ashamed of it. The only other place I’ve seen people act in this manner is Germany. It’s an aspect of British culture I’m not keen on.

  That said, cable-tying some AliExpress polyester tat onto a lamppost and spray painting a wonky flag onto a roundabout just because you don’t like the forrins? Hardly a classy move. Even aside from the sinister motives behind it, it looks shit. Particularly now that they’re all stained, faded, and tattered.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m guessing you’re not old enough to remember the white nationalists using it to threaten people. People are uncomfortable with the flag flying because it reminds them of those people, especially because the very same people are the ones putting them up now.

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• mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They aren’t patriots. It’s not like they put up the flags of Derby or Derbyshire, and they don’t put up the Union Flag nearly as often as the cross of St. George.

  And why don’t they put up the flag of the Commonwealth? Do they not sing God Save the King?

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  • Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    only 15 of 56 commonwealth members have king charles as head of state, so it would be kinda werid and against the spirit of things to waive it out of royalist sympathy. You could fly the Royal Standard, but I’m pretty sure that’s a hangin’ if you aren’t actually in the presence of the king. Image But given how many of them also believe that the royal family is part of multicultural conspiracy to replace the English with bug-eating foreigners, various interregunum flags would mage sense too. Image

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    • mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re quite right, and there isn’t actually a flag of Derby, and the Derbyshire flag isn’t that old, but none of that matters, because they aren’t flying the flags out of patriotism.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      One can only hope Charles ends like his namesake.

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t care about the flags of they didn’t look so shit. Your Temu polyester flag zip tied at half mast on a lamppost is fucking embarrassing. The roundabouts are even worse, you don’t put a flag somewhere it’s going to be driven over and get filthy.

  Get a proper flag pole, or is that too difficult for the master race?

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would have a bit more respect for them if they actually went to the effort of tying them at the top of the lamp post. Rather than standing on their mate shoulders.

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• 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In almost every other country other than Germany it’s very normal to see national flags flying everywhere. People on the right are starting to realise that and use it to say “they’re trying to stop us being patriotic.”

  Taking flags down is only going to make that worse and create an “us vs them” mentality. What would help, is flying more flags. Fly a pride flag next to a St George’s Cross. Fly a Union Jack with a dragon in the middle. Fly the same flag as the far right, but see it to represent all the people who work to make the country what it is, no matter who they are. That’s far better than creating unnecessary divisions over something that really isn’t an issue.

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  • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s not about the flags, it’s where they are.

    You can have as many flags in your garden as you wish.

    But you may not put a flag on street lights or on dual carriage way bridge for it to fly down and cause an accident.

    I don’t like the idea of people spray painting flags, I don’t like when they did it with trans flags and I don’t like it now either, but that’s not getting removed by council because it doesn’t cause the same level of risk that the council would be viable for.

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Flags on lampposts isn’t seen to be an issue anywhere else. There’s also (as far as I’m aware) no reported issues of flags flying down, regardless of whether it causes accidents. Even then, if it’s not well secured, remove it or tie it properly, otherwise leave it, it’s the same amount of effort if not less than removing it.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s like 4chan Vs Shia Lebouff all over again

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