Waving Palestinian flag may be a criminal offence, Braverman tells police

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If they make waving Palestinian flags in Jewish neighbourhoods a crime (and there is a case for it being a public order offence), they should also make waving Israeli flags in neighbourhoods with large Arab or Muslim populations an equivalent crime.

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  • hellothere@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As with everything it comes down to intent and context.

    If you accidently throw bacon on to your neighbour’s garden, it’s probably a mistake.

    If you purposefully throw bacon on to your neighbour’s garden, it’s probably littering.

    If you specifically throw bacon on their garden because they are jewish/muslim/vegetarian, etc, it’s probably a public order offence.

    The people that run the friends of palestine stand in the centre of town handing out leaflets on a Saturday afternoon and encouraging boycotting products from illegal settlements aren’t doing anything wrong.

    But someone who purposefully goes to a Jewish part of a town to wave a flag for the sole purpose of antagonising those who live there, it’s probably a public order offence.

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    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In Australia, the people handing out leaflets calling for boycotts would have been committing a federal crime (at least a few years ago), as advocating boycotts of allied countries was outlawed under the expansion of sedition laws after 9/11. I’m guessing Cruella is taking notes.

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    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you accidently throw bacon on to your neighbour’s garden

      I find this incredibly hard to believe. Why would anyone throw away perfectly delicious bacon? No sorry. This is an illogic.

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    • OwlPaste@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well put, leave it to braveshit to fuck it up

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  • Syldon@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Never let a populist opportunity go to waste. Torying rule book 101.

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  • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How often does that realistically happen, there aren’t cars full of Jews doing laps of Whitechapel with Isreali flags when this kicks off, it’s always the other way around.

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    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The tough guys waving Israeli flags aren’t necessarily Jewish; there’s a breed of troll for whom the Israeli flag is a convenient prop

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  • Nougat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They should make responding violently to flag waving a crime. Except for Nazis.

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    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You don’t think a Hamas flag represents pretty similar sentiment to the Nazi flag at present?

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  • lemonflavoured@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It could be enforced that way as it is. Whether it would be is a different question.

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  • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Someone buy me a ticket and two flags. Time to visit the motherland.

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• DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The party of free speech huh?

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Braverman says all sorts of crap

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• jtb@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Let’s make farting in public a crime.

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• Mrkawfee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No one voted for this bitch. Fuck her.

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Presumably her constituents did?

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• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It is, its directly supporting terrorism.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So ban Irish Tricolours, too?

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    • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t think the intentions are the same… IRA symbols are probably banned however…

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  • Arrakis@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So edgy.

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    • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Supporting terrorist isn’t fun and hating on people that do that isn’t “edgy”

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  • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s complicated, the Palestinian flag isn’t a terrorist symbol, the Hamas flag is. But hate crimes are based on intention and perception, so driving around a Jewish area waving it right after an attack launched from Gaza is clearly intended to cause distress. Same as sitting outside a Ukrainians house with a Russian flag at the moment.

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  • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You must have misread, they are waving a Palestinian flag not an Israeli one

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  A “significant number” of British-Israeli dual nationals have been caught up in the conflict in Israel and Gaza, the foreign secretary, James Cleverly, said earlier.

  Sunak confirmed his support for Israel, saying he stood in solidarity with the state and its people “in the face of these barbaric acts of terrorism”.

  Discussing his visit to a synagogue in north London on Monday night, Sunak said he had been “unequivocal with them that we will make sure that they feel safe at this time”.

  The number of Britons caught up in the violence in Israel and Gaza has yet to be confirmed, with ministers wary that official estimates of casualties and those injured are still being compiled.

  He continued: “I want to reassure them we’re doing everything we can, working very closely with the Israeli authorities to establish what is happening on the ground, provide support to people where it’s needed.

  Fighting in the region is continuing, with the Israeli air force announcing on social media that it was planning to launch “an extensive attack against terror targets of the terrorist organisation Hamas in the Gaza Strip”.

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bad bot, you missed the part that the headline is actually about!

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