Tensions erupt in Melbourne as immigration rallies held across Australia

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• Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  These are Fascist, Racist, Culturalist Rallies. They can charitably be called “Anti-Immigration” rallies or “Isolationist” rallies.

  They are not “Immigration” rallies in any sense.

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• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Authoritarians always hold counter protests, always.

  expect more nazis

  also, I noticed youtube is becoming infested with “Nativist” channels. They push an agenda, push “fact” based vidoes while not explaining which argument they are supporting.

  Question everything. Do not accept any facts as presented, no matter who.

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  • eureka@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s strange that this comment is demanding skepticism while declaring “Authoritarians always hold counter protests, always.”

    To contradict that assertion: The flash bang video in that article clearly shows many flags front and centre of the Melbourne counter-protest are anarcho-socialist flags. Out of all ideologies, it’s tough to get any more anti-authoritarian than them.

    And, as we’ve seen, the March for Australia protests that these people are counter-protesting is organised and lead by neo-Nazis, Nazism being infamously and proudly authoritarian.

    Looking at history, I don’t think “authoritarian/anti-authoritarian” is a useful lens for analysing state politics, but if we’re using it, we can tell that the counter protest is not the authoritarian side. I mean, some of them are literally throwing things at the authority, how could they be any clearer.

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  • Wahots@pawb.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Question everything

    This could be an astroturfing account from a troll farm.

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    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      or I could be a long time poster

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  • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fucking useless advice.

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    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      why should I believe you that it’s useless advice?

      Skepticism and careful questioning has served humankind very well. Without it you’d be an antivaxxer, eh

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• maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In Adelaide, the organiser of the city’s August March for Australia event, Mark Aldridge, was out on the streets once again, but this time joined the counter protest.

  He told the ABC it had become clear to him that the March for Australia rally had racist overtones, which he disagreed with.

  “The initial rally when I got involved was meant to be about the lack of supply of services for the migration numbers they were bringing in,” Mr Aldridge said.

  “I tried to send that messaging, it was very quickly assessable that that wasn’t the messaging that was meant to be on the day.”

  The August rally ended after an altercation broke out when a man who identified himself as a member of the National Socialist Network took to the stage to call for an end to immigration.

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  • eureka@aussie.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hear a lot of theorists talk about how being involved in a movement forces people to come to terms with the reality of it. Propaganda often doesn’t hold up against what’s in front of your face. And it’s reassuring to see that it’s sometimes the case.

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    • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      From the main rally organiser Natasha Wanganeen:

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    • maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Apparently this guy turned up to the anti-racism.rally uninvited and tried to make it all about him by having a press conference of sorts. Was a Trumpet if Patriots candidate at election. So it’s not like he’s had a change of heart. Opportunist looking to self-promote and wants to wash stink of NSN off any future tilt at office I guess.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    member of the National Socialist Network

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    • zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There’s no need for a ‘hmmm…’, those shitheads are open, Hitler-heiling Nazis: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Network

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    • DreamAccountant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This guy… National Socialists, you say? Perhaps I should be wary, instead of, you know, fighting against the nazis trying to take over my country.

      I will squint now.

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• Tau@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Pity they swapped out one of the Canberra pictures since I read the article earlier, I found it amusing how well the roadworks sign works with a protest crowd:

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• eureka@aussie.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Commander Wayne Cheeseman said police officers were pelted with rocks, glass bottles and rotten fruit

  Well then don’t stand in front of nazis.

  English police officers in Brighton figured this one out and let the '43 Group throw bricks at the BUF, Mosley didn’t appear in public again.

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