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- Comment on Nauru officially changes name to Naoero 2 days ago:
I did too. I forget the other recent example I came across, but it always impresses me how incorrectly people just adopt a blatantly bastardised version of a name (people in general, not just Aussies, English-speakers, … )
Wikipedia has not changed their article name (same with Türkiye) but it has pronunciation guides. I think it’s like “Now-eh-roo” with a rolled r, but that’s just me trying to decode IPA.
- Comment on [META] Overseas News - Proposal for increased enforcement of Rule 1 1 week ago:
I’m interested, I haven’t seen Lemmy helper bots in action yet so I’m curious. Cloudflare might be a problem you’d need to negotiate with the admin.
As you suspect, and I agree, most rule breaking on this site will either be users who’ve skipped over the rules, or have forgotten them when posting quickly. So a simple, nonthreatening reminder should be adequate, without making good-faith users feel uncomfortable. I suggest something like “Thanks for posting. Please review the rules in our sidebar, and then downvote this reply to confirm, otherwise your post may be automatically deleted after an hour. Most importantly, make sure your post body includes an explanation of why this news is relevant to an Australian perspective - you can do this by editing your post if needed.” - it’s snappy, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone who didn’t pay much attention.
I don’t know how necessary this bot will be, but we can make it low-risk of malfunctioning and use it as a low-stakes experiment that other comms can be inspired by, so if you’re itching for a project, then feel welcome!
- Comment on [META] Overseas News - Proposal for increased enforcement of Rule 1 2 weeks ago:
This is what you get when your community is called “worldnews”.
Very true. If the comm users decide we do want to narrow our scope, then I’m open to the idea of archiving this community and recreating it as “overseasnews” - it wouldn’t take much effort and migrating to a new comm is easier done sooner than later when it’s grown more.
- Comment on [META] Overseas News - Proposal for increased enforcement of Rule 1 2 weeks ago:
Thanks for the examples, and I think it’s great that you chose to relate some of them to Australia in the post body (e.g. “You reckon the same for us?”) to start a discussion, even if it didn’t get the expected conversation.
The reality is that Lemmy is 99% American and almost all content/news that is American gets the engagement
I’d assume it’s lower, but yes. On the other hand, I assume the majority of users active on aussie.zone are Australian, including users registered on other instances but subscribing to our communities, and that people choosing to use aussie.zone want to see more locally-relevant posts, with the option of using communities on other instances for the international content that all the American users promote to the top. Which is a big part of why I assumed this community should provide a counterpoint, being a place where (e.g.) Australia-Fiji relations have a chance at hitting the front page, which would have no chance in a regular World News comm.
But on the other hand, I do think there’s value in having the kinds of posts you’ve listed to draw comparisons and start locally-relevant discussions. And since this comm isn’t very busy, there isn’t much risk of US-centric content dominating any regional-specific posts.
- Comment on [META] Overseas News - Proposal for increased enforcement of Rule 1 2 weeks ago:
I think there’s value in sharing articles that address global events from an Australian perspective, and discussing those events from an Australian perspective.
I completely agree. What I’m on the fence about is whether that article needs to be explicit in that Australian perspective, even if our community can discuss any global event from our perspective. A part of me thinks that the ABC reporting that a powerful world leader on the other side of the globe has died is obviously relevant globally and therefore to Australians, but I believe a generic ABC article which just announces the event might just lead to generic comments, but an article which explicitly discusses Australia’s relationship with that leader, or Australian reactions to that leader, would provide that Australian perspective.
I’d also say from a more practical. community averages less than a post a day. [snip]
That’s a good point. I may be too enthusiastic with the gavel and risk chilling the community over me being pedantic. And that’s obviously not a good thing.
- Comment on [META] Overseas News - Proposal for increased enforcement of Rule 1 2 weeks ago:
I agree that US strikes on Iran would be world news, and would be perfectly appropriate for a general world news community, but I don’t agree that they are a fit for Overseas News, as an Aussie-focused community (as our sidebar discusses).
I’m aware that the address of this community is /c/worldnews, but we have since rebranded to Overseas News to avoid being redundant and provide a useful space for our regional news, as there are many federated World News communities for users to subscribe to.
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- Comment on News story saying Labor minister called One Nation voters 'unintelligent' shown to be fake 3 weeks ago:
I have no doubt that either this campaign, or similar ones, could be manufactured by foreign actors. The article links to this prior incident: www.sbs.com.au/news/article/…/zm35615a7
And that can make legal action against the creator difficult. So what can be done about it? To what degree is the social media platform responsible (as much as I despise them, I think their responsibility is limited, but they do provide a platform which enables this) and to what degree are people reposting it responsible? Is it arrogant or ignorant for me to suggest small fines for people spreading outright defamation like this, to solidify some actual accountability in social networks and hopefully make people more analytical about political propaganda? If our system can only prosecute the original creator, then they can just hide behind anonymity, jurisdiction or simply cop a fine as the cost of doing business.
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- Comment on White nationalist group marches as US celebrates July 4 3 weeks ago:
Agreed. US-centrism doesn’t mean “the US being mentioned”.
- Comment on White nationalist group marches as US celebrates July 4 3 weeks ago:
and that they are frightened of social repercussions
And not without reason - Patriot Front unwittingly recruited an antifascist infiltrator to be their photographer, leading to at least five of them losing their jobs and trying to sue as a result: vice.com/…/white-nationalists-suing-undercover-ac…
- Comment on White nationalist group marches as US celebrates July 4 3 weeks ago:
I’ll copy over the comment I made about Patriot Front over on the lemmy.world/c/pics thread: aussie.zone/post/34321108/23797324
- Comment on One Nation overtakes Labor, Liberals in Victoria; Allan’s rating dives 4 weeks ago:
Do people not realise, or not care?
For most, I suspect it’s the first. Media bubbles are crazy, and that’s why it’s vital for everyone to mention these things in day-to-day life (ideally without being preachy or inflammatory).
- Comment on One Nation overtakes Labor, Liberals in Victoria; Allan’s rating dives 4 weeks ago:
They weren’t polling AFR readers. On the Accent Research site, the report is described as
The monthly RedBridge/Accent Research survey run for the Australian Financial Review.
The report also has further breakdown by age demographic, home ownership, education level, gender, language spoken at home, etc.
- Comment on Pauline Hanson says her vision of 'monoculture' is like the Socceroos 4 weeks ago:
Monoculture sounds like the kind of thing they’d accuse communists of doing.
- Comment on Pauline Hanson says her vision of 'monoculture' is like the Socceroos 4 weeks ago:
It’s dog whistling, absolutely.
- Comment on Pauline Hanson says her vision of 'monoculture' is like the Socceroos 4 weeks ago:
There’s a contradiction at play here. One Nation is often vague and even self-contradictory, which combined with targeted messaging (and microtargeting in the digital realm) allows people to project onto them, I believe. They don’t want to alienate the white supremacist much, nor the “everyday aussie”, nor the non-white immigrant who agrees with some of their messaging.
It’s a juggling game. Sure, you get the neo-Nazis agitating directly about Gina saying we should give free land near Townsville to the Zionist Regime^[1]^, and an ON MP disclosing they have an immigrant Muslim boyfriend^[2]^, and more. But… who else are they going to vote for? Neo-Nazis are opportunists, they won’t just abstain. They’ll just call it ‘optics’ for the ‘normie lemmings’ and try to recruit those brought into their sphere through ON. So ON gets to sanitise their message and claim “we’re not really racists” and “stop calling everyone you don’t like a nazi”, without alienating the hardcore open bigots.
You can’t put the immigrant voting for ON and the neo-Nazi in the same protest for long, or a public meeting, but if it’s just votes from unenthusiastic masses you need, then vague mass messaging and contradictory targeted messaging works.
What rubbish. Predictable and pathetic.
Would have been cool if you preempted it, since it’s predictable.
^[1]^ : [official transcript] / [leftist article] / [nazi article (TW for bigoted ads)]
^[2]^ : [centrist article] / [nazi article (TW: homophobic framing, bigoted ads)]
- Comment on How good's Australia? No really, that's a question 5 weeks ago:
You’ve raised great questions.
I second those notes on national figures. I personally see an orange flag when people point to national metrics of economy, luxury, etc. as a sign of governance success (or failure). I’ve seen neglected public housing and gentrified tech-worker luxury a suburb apart, jump a couple more suburbs for mega-million mansions on the waterfront. This is all within an electorate or two. So what the heck do national statistics matter?
You mention means, medians and modes… I like to see medians when they show their face, do you have some critiques of medians in these kinds of statistics? I’d like to be aware if I’m giving them too much credit, perhaps because they so clearly contrast against means to demonstrate inequality in distribution.
Anybody have good data sources they’d like to share?
I’m afraid I don’t, especially not for Australia. I could try and adapt the Wealth Shown to Scale explainable to Australia’s ultrawealthy…
- Comment on This is the moment it all came crashing down for Hanson and her ilk 5 weeks ago:
Still reading, I want to give you thanks for posting the archive link and copying the text across. It’s much easier for me to read (especially now that the archive.md Google captcha is now asking some people for phone verification)
- Comment on Live: Pauline Hanson's press club address interrupted by protest banner 1 month ago:
And to emphasise my perspective, it’s harmful to supply “airtime without criticism” - that stunt drew attention to a sharp critique. It hijacked what would have otherwise been a notable occasion regardless.
- Comment on Hanson casts One Nation as rising anti-establishment force in protest-hit Press Club speech 1 month ago:
Hanson demands a homocultural nation.
- Comment on Live: Pauline Hanson's press club address interrupted by protest banner 1 month ago:
Fair call, promotion wasn’t the best word. What I meant to say was, they give her airtime without criticism - I’d say that’s a form of support, for a similar reason to your concern about giving her attention. Even if we’re talking about cases where the reporting is neutral, factual and with minimal bias, it’s still selected and reported on regularly, and that shapes the worldview of the audience, especially if the heavily-flawed ideas Hanson espouses aren’t addressed in the reporting. Repeating their messages verbatim through a megaphone is spreading their ideas - outlets almost never do the same with open neo-Nazis’ speeches, for obvious reasons.
And as is common knowledge, there are additionally some mass media favourably promoting PHON, like Sky News.
- Comment on How the explosion of the ultra-wealthy risks democracy 1 month ago:
For the most part, yes.
Voting for a representative every four years is not democracy, in any meaningful sense. The AEC is outstanding compared to other countries, I hold them in high regard and I am grateful, but we cannot pretend that people and their needs have more political influence than capital.
- Comment on Live: Pauline Hanson's press club address interrupted by protest banner 1 month ago:
and the media are just. Cool. Our turn!
and this makes plenty of sense once we inspect the owning shareholders of media corporations. Protip: it’s owning-class ultrawealthy parasites, same as in the USA
- Comment on Live: Pauline Hanson's press club address interrupted by protest banner 1 month ago:
I do have to question if that is giving her more attention, eg. “interrupted by protest banner” vs “Pauline Hanson’s press club address” really what we want?
PHON is not a problem that can just be ignored, considering that capitalist mass media is constantly promoting her and the party is regularly claiming polls and some election results of >20%. We are past the era of denying attention. If we’re lucky, we’re still in the era of education and inoculation against their propaganda.
- Comment on One Nation branch official defended Hitler Youth and called Aboriginal people ‘stone age’ in racist posts 1 month ago:
Well, Zoo magazine wasn’t where I expected to find neo-fascist propaganda, but in hindsight maybe I shouldn’t have been surprised.
When asked if his role was elected or appointed, he said “none of your business so bugger off”.
Democracy in action, folks.
- Comment on Seven arrested at Brisbane Palestine rally including flotilla activist detained by IDF 1 month ago:
Detained by the IDF and QPS! Ridiculous speech restriction…
- Comment on Stop Victoria's fake party rort !! 1 month ago:
Tom Tanuki made a video about this, in particular about the e-celeb grifters patting themselves on the back for this “genius” idea.
But the sad thing is, I think political consciousness right now is so low that people could conceivably give votes to parties just based on their ballot name.
- Comment on New technology developed in Canberra could prevent 70 million tonnes of milk waste each year 1 month ago:
Great to hear, thanks for sharing. I always love some good CSIRO news.
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