Probably for the best. The Deck certification process on games would probably be annoying if they had a whole bunch of revisions with only like 10% difference in performance.
Wait a few years and make the next one a meaningful jump.
Valve: don’t expect a faster Steam Deck ‘in the next couple of years’
Submitted 1 year ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/21/23884863/valve-steam-deck-2-refresh-upgrade-cpu-2025
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RxBrad@lemmings.world 1 year ago
clanginator@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly. I’d like to see a few significant improvements for the next gen - namely in screen and performance to match, but my dream would be to see Valve license Framework’s module system (or build something similar of their own) and integrate one of those somewhere on the deck.
It’d be great for the obvious, like adding high-speed storage, but just imagine the possibilities for a handheld gaming console of attachments people could build with a module system that locks in place like that.
Obviously the module thing is a pipe dream and unlikely to happen, but I just feel like there’s a ton of additional potential for that form factor that’s unexplored, and I’d like to see longer generations not only for support, but also so that larger iterative work like designing a module system or whatever can be prioritized over rushing out regular performance upgrades.
mp3@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’m not in a rush, and stable specs makes it easier for devs to get their games to work and Valve to improve Proton.
The next version is definitely on my radar, but for now my desktop works well enough.
caut_R@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The thing that made me reconsider buying one is the screen. Make an OLED version and I‘m gonna get one. I‘m not worried about the performance, I‘d get a deck for stuff like Dead Cells and Spelunky, not for stuff like Cyberpunk.
Madex@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I think you can upgrade the screen
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fine by me, just keep supporting the Steam Deck and being awesome.
stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 1 year ago
I just hope they can bring the weight down in the next version. It’s a little too heavy for me to use, and I was so sad when I realized it.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Hold it with one hand
Do curls with it
Change hand
Repeat
Couple of weeks later it will feel light as fuck holding it with two hands!
eyes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This guy’s trying to trick us into working out - Get them!
Chailles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Playing on the Steam Deck for a few weeks and then picking up a Nintendo Switch, it felt like I was holding air.
Phanatik@kbin.social 1 year ago
It's lighter than I expected for its size. What problems are you having with it?
stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 1 year ago
I have a genetic disorder that causes my tendons and ligaments to be weak, so I get sprains and dislocations easily. I’ve sprained a finger pushing an elevator button before, and dislocated a knee standing up and taking a step. My hands are so stupid weak I couldn’t even get a Switch, I had to get a Switch Lite. I can’t use Xbox controllers because the D-pad and left stick being switched caused me to accidentally dislocate my thumb once.
The Steam Deck is just slightly too heavy for me to hold for long, because you carry some of the weight on your middle fingers when you’re holding it. When I was trying it, a middle finger joint started to go out of place.
The ergonomics of the Steam Deck were great; so I was so upset when I felt my finger starting to give. I had only played for about 10, 15 minutes before I started having problems, and I had to tape my finger after I got home from trying it.
I’m a rare case, I know, but usually new versions of electronics tend to be slimmer and lighter, so I’m hopeful.
SilentCal@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 year ago
Fair enough, it seems like we’re starting to see smaller performance gains per generation especially in battery devices. Makes sense to not force an update until real iterative performance is available. Asus’s ROG Ally was 1.5-2 years after Steamdeck and seems mostly on par.
echo64@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Kinda wonder what kind of effect a more powerful nintendo device will have on the whole ecosystem. Nintendo devices are automatically probably going to run smoother watt for watt just because developers will likely prioritize optimisation for that device, so it’s all a bit of an uphill battle for the steam deck there
Gamey@feddit.de 1 year ago
Nintendo never makes anyhow powerful devices, they juat rely wntirely on developer optimization and only certain dwvelopers are willing to put in the time well and money to publiah for their propriatary and expensive frameworks in the first place.
echo64@lemmy.world 1 year ago
- famicom: very competitive at the time, advanced in some areas
- snes: very competitive, more powerful in many regards
- n64: widely accepted as the most powerful of that generation
- gamecube: more powerful than ps2
- wii: this one is the least powerful you have that.
- wiiu: widely accepted as more powerful than x360/ps3
- switch: powerful hardware for a handheld of the time.
- rumoured switch successor: rumored to basically be a portable ps4.
Your theory does not hold water. And it is full of typos. You need a better mobile keyboard.
TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just want a skightly higher res screen. Not by much just a bit more. Thats all
forgotaboutlaye@kbin.social 1 year ago
I would upgrade for a slightly smaller, more battery efficient Steamdeck with an OLED screen. I know that's a lot to ask for, but definitely performance is the least of my concerns.
GillyGumbo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m holding off until a new version. Doesn’t necessarily need to be faster, but I’m sure they’ve learned a ton with this release. Interested to see their 2.0 release.
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Only thing I would ever want more is battery, but I’ve never even drained it and I carry my power brick with me everywhere for my phone/ laptop anyway so. I’d just get this version on the next discount (if I did not have a similar device).
FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]simple@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I have absolutely no idea what you’re ranting about and why this has to do with the steam deck but I appreciate the enthusiasm I guess
tal@kbin.social 1 year ago
It is possible to get a USB power station. The Deck can charge at up to 45W.
I wish that power stations acted more like external batteries (would automtically be flipped on by devices when their internal batteries get low, will be charged after their internal batteries are charged), but even as things are, they do let one extend battery life on portable devices dramatically.
Phanatik@kbin.social 1 year ago
There's a lot of rambling here but your points are centred around battery life so I'll hit that.
The Steam Deck's battery life isn't amazing.
The most I've seen is Stardew Valley running for 5 hours.There's two sides to this; the Steam Deck's power consumption settings and how long you actually want to spend playing.
The Deck allows you to control how much power a game is allowed to consume. I'm playing Fallen Order atm and that game would probably run for 2-3 hours of continuous play. I'm playing on mostly medium settings with textures on high.
There are certain other games that will utterly drink battery life, like Baldur's Gate 3. I would personally argue that you shouldn't be attempting it as a regular mode of playbut I tried it myself and it doesn't look terrible. But you have to go in understanding that BG3 is a graphically intensive game and the Steam Deck isn't exactly built for it.
On the second point, I personally can't spend more than 2 hours of continuous play. After a while, I get tired of holding the device. I live in the UK so our travel times aren't long. I also don't travel very often either. My time on the Deck is usually just before going to sleep. The way the device is, I'm not sure that you could be playing one game for that long. Sure, you can play Titanfall 2 but that's a very fast-paced game and it's probably not going to translate well to the Deck. It's better if you plug in KBM but then you're having to carry those around as well. At that point, you may as well be on a laptop or PC.
There are certain games I've decided that I'll play on the Deck like Fallen Order or No Man's Sky. I've also got emulators loaded if I ever want to play those games. If you want a Steam Deck, you should be getting it because it allows you to play a huge breadth of games, not the latest ones at high graphical settings. If you want that, get a PC, you'll be happier with that than the sacrifices you'll have to make on the Deck just to get the game to run well.
FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thanks for writing out how your experience is. It’s how I imagined it. I would need to have more battery life to make it worth it to me to buy it. For example, a long trip without any way to plug it in. I definitely wouldn’t expect it to run AAA titles.
Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They don’t want to compromise battery in favor of performance and I agree. With smaller games like Hades or cult of the lamb my steam deck battery will last and last. On more demanding games like cyberpunk or Armored Core I get a little over an hour out of it best case scenario.
Beefier graphics hardware will only make that issue worse.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I so often use mine plugged in as I’m not walking or in a park, I’m on a bus or train which can often have a plug, so not much of an issue there, however I’m not playing high-end games, it’s so good for stuff like Hades and whatnot.
mp3@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Personally I don’t plan on playing big games like these on the go anyway, so battery life isn’t going to be a problem.
I was thinking of getting a docking station with an m.2 slot for those bigger games to play when I’m home.
Gamey@feddit.de 1 year ago
Only waiting for new generations of GPUs and CPUs can help there I guess, those usually push things a lot in a performance per wat comparison!
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
The battery life is already 5 seconds. No need to make the problem worse.