Chippie owner given ‘devastating’ £40,000 fine by Home office for allegedly illegal hire

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I swear people just want to be unhappy.

  We say we don’t want companies to illegally hire, yet when they do and face the consequences of it, we get stories like this.

  We can’t have low fines, otherwise business just treat it as a cost of doing business… I’m sure we’ve all seen stories of big companies knowingly breaking the law and being fined pennies, and things like small companies fly tipping because occasionally being caught works out cheaper than proper waste management.

  The onus is on the hiring company to check if the person has all the required paperwork and has a legal right to work.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Which is not exactly hard. The people who hire illegal workers do so to save money, not because it’s somehow hard to check a piece of paper.

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  When the man was hired in early 2023, he provided the chippie with a national insurance number, proof of student loan payments and housing benefit receipts from the local council. He also provided a photocopy of his British passport and was paid via pay as you earn (PAYE) through HMRC.

  Shouldn’t they fine the illegal in that case? It sounds like the business took appropriate measures.

  Granted, you can check if a passport is authentic using your phone (as passports have RFID chips which contain digitally signed data that your phone can read) but I wouldn’t expect an old bloke to know how to do that

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s why businesses insist on seeing your actual passport. Not a picture of it.

    I can give you a picture of anything, that’s been true for years even before the rise of image generation AI. I once had to mail my passport via recorded courier to a company in London in order to apply for a job in Leeds. Hell of a pain but necessary.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I had a job and they only wanted a picture scan of it ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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  • frazorth@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There is the point where if the person had valid identification, and National Insurance, and was paid via HMRC, that the onus should be on notifying the business of a change of status. Whether that’s the student or HMRC I don’t know. They would notify the business on a change of required tax.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, I feel HMRC should have done something other than wait two years before going “actually no, pay us a fine”.

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• ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Voters: You must crack down on immigration.

  Also voters: Not like that!

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  • Skyrmir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not usually the voters complaining about the fines, it’s the business owners that pay for opposition to them.

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