The bigger issue is that the job attracts grifters who only want the job so they can enrich themselves. An educated electorate is one part of the solution (as naively fanciful as that sounds), but we also need some hard and fast regulations which are policed and enforced.
Members of public to be selected for ‘honest conversation’ about MPs’ pay
Submitted 3 days ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/30/mps-pay-public-debate-conversation-expenses
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Trebuchet@europe.pub 3 days ago
Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 1 day ago
This is some gaslighting bullshit. On a list of the problems faced by the populace, MP pay isn’t even a blip on the radar. People would gladly double their salaries, if they actually did something about housing, cost of living, the NHS, crumbling infrastructure, etc.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
MP pay is such a red herring.
Yes, their pay is a lot compared to, say, minimum wage, but a low MP pay even further encourages only wealthy people to become MPs.
I’d much rather see MP salary significantly increased, but expenses capped and put under a much greater level of scrutiny.
Naich@lemmings.world 2 days ago
I don’t think the amount of pay actually matters much - the worst of them make most of their money from other jobs as “consultants” and such. Pay them 100K a year and ban them from doing any other jobs.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Singapore recruit their government ministers globally and offer salaries into the millions of S$ - £600k-1.2m. Consequently they attract a high calibre.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 days ago
Making everything about money turns out to have been super bad for society.
As in we seem to treat money as the ultimate form of success. Sure, we pay lip service to other things, but in reality we don't really acknowledge other accomplishments on the same level.
You see it in the way the culture sector is expected to make a profit, rather than the goal being to make culture. Much like healthcare - you put money in and get a healthy population out. It's not supposed to make money!
I'm thinking that if a successful career as a politician was based more around improving our society, rather than being a great way to make pots of cash, then the goal would be to have a memorable (positive!) career in politics.
Putting money on a pedestal is such a fucking lie. It's essentially a boiled down version of the classic advertising lie - "Buy this thing and you will be happier" (perhaps not stated as such but that's the general pitch). Satisfaction and contentment isn't something that can be achieved by ticking a box - it's a journey and a learned way of framing one's life. There's plenty of ways to spend money to reduce negatives, and money can definitely lubricate the gears of life towards happiness, but ticking the boxes won't actually unlock those things.
You don't wake up one morning after achieving whatever tickbox and suddenly become a different person.
"I've got my PhD, now I'm satisfied with life!"Doesn't work like that! You can't flip a switch in your brain and change the way you've been interpreting your situation.
It'd be lovely if it did work like that, so I can see why it's so easy to get people to buy into it. It's an easy answer to a difficult question.
Instead I think we need people chasing after different needs. The need to make a positive difference (and be known for it), to make a contribution to our culture, etc.. There's a bit of ego about it but that's humans for you. Use that lever for good!
samc@feddit.uk 2 days ago
The problem isn’t the reward for becoming an MP, it’s the cost of campaigning. Candidates are expected to put up £10-30k of their own money to contest a seat. Some spend considerably more.
Personally, I don’t think paying MPs more will do much harm, but it won’t fix any of the problems with the quality of the politicians we get.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I have no problem with MPS being compensated for their time the problem is they’ve been compensated despite not doing their jobs. Don’t turn up to parliament and don’t have a good reason, is it because you’re randomly in the US well I guess he wasn’t doing your job. No payment.
Any work that MPS do in addition to their jobs as MPS has to be done entirely out of hours and cannot interfere with their duties.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 day ago
Oh it used to make my blood boil to learn my MP hadn't even bothered to show up for a vote or debate. It still would but I don't keep track of it anymore. It's your godsdamned job, you over-entitled fucks. I don't give a shit if you think it's dull - you wanted it, you got it, now get your arse onto those benches and represent the interests of your constituents. If you don't want to do that, fucking resign.
tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Any conversation around salary has to include their generous pension scheme (better than civil servants), significant expenses that they are allowed to claim for their lifetime in parliament, expensive freebies such as Taylor Swift or access to an Arsenal box, subsidised food and drink, and the opportunities offered for additional salary from outside jobs and lobbying. Oh and if they lose their seat the get a decent pay out, significantly more than statutory redundancy. And for the small number who might have a baby in office, six months full pay, far more than statutory again.
Just focusing on salary when its only part of their actual net income makes it appear meaner than it actually is. They should be forced to stick to statutory requirements as that would incentivize them to improve it quicker rather than yet another exception.