Your VPN won't go to jail for you for $5

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• kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Which is why VPN services that actually want to honor their claims, but also not have legal trouble, usually cost more to justify investing in infrastructure that actually allows for both of these things to be true.

  ExpressVPN, for instance, migrated every single server to be entirely held on RAM. Your session ends, that data is gone. So if they are forced by a govermental body to provide your data, they can comply, but the only data they’ll have is whatever you typed in to create an account and pay for it.

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  • Bluefruit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    After looking it up, apparently private internet access also stores everything in ram. Thats pretty intresting and a very clever way to avoid giving logs to anyone. Thanks for sharing.

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    • Lodespawn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      PIA has had a pretty great track record over its life time, I had no problems with their service for the years I used it, but it's current owners are a little hard to trust.

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• beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What the hell are you guys doing that would result in jail time?

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  • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Abortions.

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    • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Damn, that sounds like it's time to get out of that shithole, not time to look for a better vpn

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    • tallwookie@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you wouldnt download an abortion kit

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  • kier@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At this point, I’m too afraid to ask…

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  • AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nice try FBI.

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• Cleverdawny@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is why you go with vpns that don’t keep traffic records. They’ll certainly respond to subpoenas, but if they don’t keep any information on your activities, the response will not be useful.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Prove it. There’s gotta be some level of logging to maintain the system and performance. Even small levels of logging can give away information. Unless you can audit their system it’s not worth it imo.

    The biggest nail gets hammered down, and for the past decade or so that’s VPN providers.

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    • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      NordVPN is audited to make sure they aren’t storing records, or so they claim. I’m sure other companies do similar things.

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    • zepheriths@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes you only need the user ID to be logged, most people are talking but the searchs being logged. I user ID doesnt tell much if someone does audit. Only that you exist on the platform

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• downpunxx@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  this is why you should always go with a big named paid VPN service, they won't go to jail for you, but they've got their reputation as a VPN to uphold as their only selling point, if they start turning over logs they lose their entire business, so, they will fight, harder than the little guys will

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• jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  More importantly this is why you should use a VPN that accepts anonymous payments. Like mullvad. Yes in theory they can watch the traffic come in and they can watch the traffic go out so they can make a map, but who’s to say which user from your IP address was the user. Just break the chain as much as possible.

  You have to assume your counterparty is compromised, so look for people who want to keep his little data as possible

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  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fr. I’ve never understood the concept of “believe us! We’re big on privacy!” and then not offering an anonymous payment option. It seems like an obvious contradiction in terms that many people just don’t notice.

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• Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  PROTON!

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