Submitted 5 days ago by maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone to news@aussie.zone
Wyld said at their meeting McDonald referred to a tweet Wyld had posted about the death of the Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar in October, which referred to him as a martyr. Wyld deleted the tweet shortly after posting it.
Uh… was he not objectively a martyr? Like, an Israeli soldier who is very enthusiastic about their current assignment and is killed as part of them would also be a martyr. It’s just someone killed for their beliefs (including political beliefs), right?
no
it is not the same thing
martyrs in Christian theology do not go to heaven by killing infidels , they die for beliefs
They. are. not. the. same. Quit comparing genociders and genocidees
The current liberal hegemony is on the wrong side of history.
We need to completely clean out the existing parties and replace them with leaders who will represent us.
Well we.could have started by viting Green and moving the Overton Window at the recent elextion but we fucking didn’t.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
little L liberals support every struggle for freedom except the current one.
I have no idea what people expect resistance to systematic displacement, imprisonment, discrimination, and murder to look like. If waving some flags and a few kindly worded speeches would have been enough then the 100 prior years was plenty of time for it to do that. At a certain point it becomes kill your attacker or die. Let’s not forget who the aggressors are.
Shit sucks, but there aren’t exactly innocents in an active colonisation and genocide program.
sqgl@beehaw.org 4 days ago
Are you talking about Hamas or Israel? Because Gaza had peace before Oct 7, although heavily policed border control because of suicide bombers coming out and rocket parts going in.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 days ago
And the Jews had peace in the Polish ghettos.
Fucking lying arse zios man.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Deeply unserious.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 4 days ago
my fam was in the resistance in wwii
they attacked railways stations, police stations, military bases, sabotaged military operations. Their targets were the authority who were the occupiers
they didn’t attack a village and burn children to death
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
So firstly the invasion of France (assuming you mean French capital R resistance? not like the Warsaw uprising or whatever?) was not a program where the French nationals were split into disconnected areas while German nationals took their land. That sort of displacement was basically only done by German military and government in order to set up their occupation infrastructure.
Secondly the occupation of France was quite short, and during an active was so comparing the circumstances directly is a bit misleading. What did early Palestinian resistance look like?
Thirdly, and I think this is quite key, the French resistance did a shitload of absolutely horrifying stuff and discussions of the right to resist usually point this out: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_resist
The unfortunate reality is that resistance is ugly and chaotic, that the moral responsibility lies with oppressors to not oppress, and not turn their citizens into targets by involving them in oppression and carrying out acts in their name, and it is the responsibility of citizens to avoid claiming fruits of such programs such as land and resources.
badlucknocooki@lemmings.world 4 days ago
Belgian here. The resistance absolutely did attrocities
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 days ago
Well Israel isn’t the resistance, Israel is the invader. So of course they’re going to attack villages and burn children to death.