New ‘Marathon’ Info: Bungie Morale, Launch Worries And Changing Plans

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• RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Live service garbage has costed the industry billions in losses and costed tens of thousands of devs their jobs. Fad chasing in general.

  Everyone wants to make the fortnite killer or overwatch killer. They set billions of dollars on fire and get nothing for it. And it’s the devs who pay the price. Not the c-suite dipshits who threw all that money in the fire pit.

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  • rigatti@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, the money does go somewhere. People get paid while the game is being developed. It’s just that the investors don’t get the ROI.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, but then their lives are often uprooted, since the entire existence of their job was based on a bad bet.

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    • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But an exec gets a new yacht or a new classic car so a lot of good comes out of it…

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean they also created a ton of jobs and it‘s not like devs working on single player games don‘t face layoffs and bonuses fraud. Besides Overwatch 2 killed Overwatch already.

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    • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      tons of jobs

      speaks as they try to replace everyone with AI except for the management suite.

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    • RangerJosey@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Real Spiderman points at Spiderman moment here.

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• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This one and FairGame$ are both screwed, and they’ll mark the end of an era for Sony and live service. What’s funny too is that Bungie was purchased in large part for being experts in making successful live service games, but it reminds me of something in investing where those who appear to be very smart after a string of successes are compared to being “expert coin flippers” who just got heads a number of times in a row. As we’ve gotten a peak or two behind the curtain after the purchase, it certainly looks like Bungie was only lucky.

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  • radix@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bungie is a lot like Bioware in that regard: Some real bangers on the resume, but none very recently. It should serve as a reminder that companies don’t make games, people do. If the right people aren’t involved, or too many of the wrong people are, past successes are entirely meaningless.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Recently” also means something different in a time where BioWare makes one game every 5 years rather two games in the same year.

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    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s what weirds me out when people say things like: i will always pre order the new (insert developer name) game because i trust them. It’s not the shareholders or the suits who make the games, it’s the people, and these people may work somewhere else 10 years later.

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  • simple@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It is a little funny that even after Sony backpedaled hard on live service after Concord, the one studio they bought to make live service games instantly started failing too. Destiny hasn’t been doing too great either. Sony have been very unlucky this generation.

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• KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Single player games don’t make money”

  Meanwhile, at all the live service games:

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• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Can’t wait until Tom does a Skelator bit about this.

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