I can't decide whether they're awful or just saying awful things to pander to the awful bits of the electorate. Both are terrible but they're different flavours of evil.
Keir Starmer does not believe trans women are women, No 10 says
Submitted 3 weeks ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crldey0z00ro
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Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Pandering to the most awful bigots in the country is an awful thing to do. This is a spineless government with no principles other than “don’t offend the right wing”.
joekar1990@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Feels like a cozying up to trump looking for a tariff exemption by doing this too, right?
thehatfox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Labour chose to take this particular stance today. There are many other approaches they could have taken, they could have also tried to dodge the matter and kick they can down the road, but instead “trans women are not women” is what they have chosen to actively embrace.
(Further) pandering to the transphobic lobby is not necessary, and what’s been said today is far beyond pandering.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
I’m constantly amazed that this is a hard subject for people. As the golden rule says:
“I’m not going to reach into your pants, without an invitation. And I prefer no one reach into my pants, because we barely know each-other. Whatever someone tells me is in their pants, I’ll take their word for it, as long as they haven’t flashed me in public. Also, shitting in practically transparent stalls is awful for everyone, and showering with strangers sucks. Let’s all just do less of both.”
deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
They’re missing a word on the end of that sentence: “today”. Tomorrow, however …
WickedZebra66@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Because they are in fact men. Biologically. Most of the time.
WickedZebra66@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Aww. Upset someone.
ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It’s at times like these I turn to my man Alexei:
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh damn, this is huge. He’s officially admitting to being a Transphobic Bigot. Literally.
What else in this ballpark would he like to admit to while he’s at it? Maybe he’s a Homophobe too? …What’s his stance on black people?
Also, are transgender men, men? And if so, why is it one rule for women and another for men? Is he sexist too?
On the basis of his admission of being a Bigot I would argue he is unfit to be leader of the Labour Party. I recall a Labour Prime Minister not too long ago getting angry at someone for being a Bigot… how times have changed…
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
This is not huge. He is literally saying what the law says. This isn’t transphobia. This isn’t bigotry. Literally.
You’re blowing this completely out of proportion, and also throwing in a load of other shit that he never said anything about.
flamingos@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Damn, if only the PM had the power to get the law changed.
This is transphobia, seriously listen to him weasel out of it. He was asked if trans woman were women in general, not specifically for the purposes of the Equalities Act.
stsquad@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
“when looking at the Equality Act” is the key missing part off the quote. Would you expect an ex-barrister to contradict the ruling of the supreme court?
What’s actually needed is new clear primary legislation to address all these issues. Parliament still had primacy here but good luck getting MPs wading into such a toxic debate?
thehatfox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They could have announced they would look to introduce new legislation to address this. They could have said just about anything instead of what’s been said today.
But they didn’t, they are instead parroting the court ruling as if it’s a final settlement on the issue.
There is no weaselling around these words, the only debate is whether it exposes cowardice or bigotry.