Submitted 10 months ago by niktemadur@lemmy.world to [deleted]
It’s one of those pet peeves that rub me the wrong way, and they all seem to do it, whether it’s anywhere around The Ringer network, or the Earwolf network, or the Blank Check podcast to name a few, they always say “Ray” instead of “Ralph”.
The man’s real full name is Ralph Nathaniel Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes, quite a fancy mouthful, but not even a hint of “Ray” or “Raymond” in there. Did everyone in the podcasting world decide to pronounce his name wrong on purpose?
The English aristocracy never quite got comfortable with English, the language of the unwashed. So they keep Norman French alive in weird pronunciations of names. The Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes family are no different.
Fiennes does seem to come from a posh background, doesn’t he?
Then maybe a commoner trained in Shakespeare can and does develop that poshness, the ability to deliver it effortlessly.
Was, for example, Peter O’Toole a noble or a hoodlum? Because there seems to be a bit of both in him at the same time.
But then I take a look at the full Fiennes family name and oof… there’s some olde stubbornly blue roots in there, in plain sight. The kind of thing you would spy on the guestlist for the weekly Saxe-Coburg canasta evening.
So is Rafe like the black sheep of his family, because he went prancing off to theater school and the bohemian lifestyle instead of a sturdy and dignified profession, like banking?
For the aristocracy, the people who work “real jobs” are the black sheep. A gentleman is supposed to live off the land (rents) and to otherwise be a mere amateur.
Names in particular are under no obligation to follow established or common spelling or pronunciation patterns. A simple search on the engine of your choosing would’ve told ya that’s the way it is pronounced. It is, of course, unusual. But they’re doing it as close to right as they can for Ralph.
lewdian69@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because it’s pronounced “Rafe”. You are mistaken.
ladbible.com/…/ralph-fiennes-name-pronunciation-o…
lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
wow, that is easy to get wrong
nick@midwest.social 10 months ago
This is the answer.
niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well fuck me gently with a chainsaw, I am flabbergasted and illustrated, simultaneously and at the same time.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Holy shit, I truly thought he had a brother named “Ray.” Lol
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Ahhh, so the I in RaIph is like the second l in Aluminum, what wiII those crafty brits think up next
codapine@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Same for composer Ralph Vaughan-Williams. Since the last name starts with a ‘f’ sound, people think it’s ‘Ray Fiennes’ or ‘Ray Vaughan-Williams’. Granted Vaughan-Williams is a very niche example that most people would not have heard of.
I hope I’m not wrong in hyphenating his surname.
Thavron@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Holy shit that site is abysmal, at least on mobile.