Submitted 10 months ago by Corgana@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
Here’s mine:
I’m not a fan of any of the Kelvinverse films, BUT if forced to rank them, it would be like this:
1.) Star Trek VI
Very tight film. Christopher Plummer is excellent.
Can’t separate these just like the LoTR films, anyways you got KHAN, the sacrifice of the Enterprise and Double Dumbass on you. Excellent trilogy.
It’s the borg, gotta give it up for the Borg 👏
Never give up, never surrender!
Fuck you I LIKE Enterprise beauty shots set to Jerry Goldsmith music. With that said I like the story and character arcs of Kirk and Spock.
It’s OK. The rest of the DS9 uniform replacements won’t arrive til Tuesday
Underrated. Has its moments. I think Sybok gives an excellent performance otherwise forgettable movie
It’s OK. Karl.Urban nails Bones.
Didn’t see the others. I haven’t been sold on seeing Insurrection and Nemesis ever despite easily able to and apparently I should give Beyond (Kelvin III) a chance.
I can’t tell you how much I love that you listed Galaxy Quest as a Star Trek movie.
It ranked pretty highly as a write-in candidate at a con once.
I need to retract my answer for my failure to include Galaxy Quest.
and Double Dumbass on you
Ha I forgot about that part. Makes sense to view those movies as a trilogy, too.
One damn minute, admiral!
I love this discussion.
Star Trek VI is precious to me for reasons of special memories seeing it with my father. So I know I watch it with rose colored glasses.
It’s neat to see some validation that it’s actually really good film.
It’s a good story on it’s surface, but somehow also packs in a really metaphor for the end of the Cold War, AND a metaphor about Star Trek as a franchise. Simply the best.
Just watched it again last week. It’s just a very well done movie all around.
@GreenMario@lemm.ee, I seem to have discovered that you are my Star Trek preference twin.
Although, I would personally put Star Trek (2009) a bit ahead of V The Final Frontier, our teens profoundly negative reaction to it would make put it at the back or at best tied. There has been utter refusal from them to even attempt to watch Into Darkness and Beyond. Stuck watching them on my own, Beyond is a head shaker that spends all its time distracting from what could have been a good story with utter silliness like a motorcycle found randomly on a ship.
Into Darkness is in its own way as much a complete head scratcher as The Final Frontier, but with A list casting and more appalling results. In both cases, you can see the traces and structure of what might have been an interesting movie if only a massive train derailment hadn’t beset production somewhere and somehow.
I did however see Insurrection at first release as a family outing with the in-laws. It was fine, and worth a watch at home. In fact, its main issue is that it felt like it should be a made for cable movie rather than a cinematic release. There so much more awful stuff out there by comparison. Nemesis for a Trek example. By half way through I was was wanting to get back the ridiculously self indulgent Picard dune buggy opening sequence.
My final ranking.
1./ VI - The Undiscovered Country
3./ First Contact
4./ I - The Motion Picture (I enjoy it more as I age and it’s remastered.)
5./ Galaxy Quest
6./ Insurrection
7./ Generations (It happened.)
8./ TIE V - The Final Frontier & Star Trek (2009)
9./ TIE Nemesis & Beyond
10./ Into Darkness
EDIT: Apparently everyone on this website is insane
Clearly the inmates are running the asylum
To be clear, I do not excuse myself from the descriptor.
EDIT: Apparently everyone on this website is insane
Have you considered the possibility that ya basic?
Genuinely good films: 4,6,2,8
Ok but flawed films: 1,3,9,5,7
Derivative and unnecessary, but sometimes charming films: 11,13
Very few redeeming qualities and should never have been made: 10,12
2009 Trek higher than First Contact??? This is heresy of the highest order!!!
After this point, I really like the remaining films, but not enough to have strong feelings to rank them.
10-12) Search, Insurrection, Final Frontier
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Here’s my full list:
I enjoyed the Kelvin films pretty equally. In wouldn’t have started watching Trek if it were not for 09. But I do see them as a separate thing.
Big fan of Insurrection getting some respect! I love it for being the big budget, high production mashup of TNG that it clearly is, even though it also doubles down on the Picard-as-Action-Hero trend that ends up ruining Nemesis (IMO).
Insurrection is not among my faves but for me it’s exactly what a Star Trek movie should be: a two parter episode with better budget.
Nemesis above Undiscovered Country? That’s a shock!
I agree, it is a most illogical choice.
I’m not certain but I think that’s an actual crime in some states.
The final frontier was bad. It was really bad. It had so much random stuff going on and had very little explanations about anything. They should have narrowed their focus a lot.
Y’know I watched it recently and I was prepared for the worst, but it’s really not that bad. The plot is silly but there are some good character moments. It felt like TOS.
I guess this is a hot take.
Wrath of Khan - Here it comes. The Search for Spock - Your planet, welcome! The Voyage Home - Gracie’s pregnant. Star Trek 2009 - Tiberius? No that’s the worst. The Undiscovered Country - What IS it with you? First Contact - It’s a primitive culture! Generations - It won’t be installed until Tuesday. The Final Frontier - Not in front of the Klingons! Beyond - We are not equipped for this method of combat Into Darkness - Gorn C-section, those bastards bite! The Motion Picture - Still puts me to sleep Nemesis - I hated it more after the director commentary. DARK! Howard the Duck - Better than Insurrection Picard Season 2 - Still better than Insurrection … (other movies here, like Lilo and Stitch 2) Insurrection
All of them? Okay:
I don’t like the Kelvinverse films either but I guess I like the first one the most, the other two are so dumb it makes my brain hurt.
Beyond
Gotta ask why this is #1
Because it’s the one I enjoy the most.
Putting Generations and Insurrection below Into Darkness is a slight I won't tolerate. Whatever flaws those movies had, they at least tried to explore something about the human condition.
And to have Nemesis above both of those... oof.
I am right with you on Insurrection in last place. I can’t find one redeeming thing about it.
@stuck @420blazeit69 it wouldn’t have even been a decent TNG episode. It’s like they pulled a rejected TNG script and decided to make a movie. Pretty much killed Trek movies even though one more managed to come out.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You put Into Darkness above '09? Madness.
420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 months ago
Generations above First Contact is a hot take, too
Corgana@startrek.website 10 months ago
I have a soft spot for it. It’s weird in a good way! No shade at First Contact tho.
Corgana@startrek.website 10 months ago
My perspective is that at least Into Darkness has a message? Kind of? '09 felt like Star Trek: Mountain Dew. Don’t get me wrong though I don’t feel either is worth defending and I put one second total into deciding the Kelvinverse order.
bababooey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Beyond and 09 weren’t good, but I think Into Darkness was quite significantly worse. It was probably the single least creative movie I’ve ever seen, though I guess some other Abrams movies come close.
MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can we all agree to refer to 09 as Star Trek: Mountain Dew, from now on?
I love the film, but it’s a fair nickname.
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 10 months ago
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